I am NOT all over the place. I have been consistent on this issue.
Consistently wrong. And your beliefs are all over the place especially since you reject the bible and have no foundation for determining truth by this rejection.
For your belief system to be valid, you have to discount Gen 3, the Tree of Life, and that Jesus came to offer us eternal life, plus stretch the definition of the word perish.
I showed you Gen 3 the way you use it is meaningless. Explain the context of the verse as it is written in the scriptures, Ruth, not something Mr. Fudge mislead you to believe. We already had eternal life per the verses I showed you and you avoided outright yet again.
Stretch the definition? Here it is again:
Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry
TDNT Reference: 1:394,67
Outline of Biblical Usage
- to destroy
- to put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruin
- render useless
- to kill
- to declare that one must be put to death
- metaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hell
- to perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyed
- to destroy
- to lose
Now show me where it means annihilation? Show me any dictionary in the world where perish literally means annihilate.
It doesn't. There is a completely different word used for annihilation and this word is not it.
Perish does not mean annihilation. One doesn't mean Five. Orange doesn't mean Apple. Words have meanings and definitions.
The meaning of the word perish is what is being shown to you Ruth. And if you reject literal definitions as defined by literal dictionaries that then you might as well throw away every text ever written because you have no way to validate the meaning of or usage or context of any word ever written.
The wages of sin is death, not eternal torment. Jesus conquered death, not eternal torment.
There are 2 deaths. And he conquered both.
You can spin it however you want to so you can hold onto your doctrine of man, but it doesn't make it truth.
The Bible is clear. You believe Mr. Fudge a fallible man over what the scriptures actually say.
Jesus came to offer us eternal life. He died in in our place, paid our debt as our redeemer. He is not in eternal torment because that was never the penalty for sin.
Because Hell could not hold Him.
I realize you are scared to sincerely look at this issue but I hope one day you find the courage to do so.
You are avoiding issue.
Your responses are not in the order or a discussion where you have any interest in seriously considering anything I say and think you can just intimidate me.
That boat sailed a long time ago. I hope one day you actually watch the video and give this issue some serious consideration. Because it is truth.
Why would I watch a video of a fallible man who I know is already wrong in all his beliefs based on what the scriptures state. Is that video supposed to sway me? No.
You are avoiding again.