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Students of the fallen angels

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The Bible shows that there are no " FALLEN ANGELS " in the Old Testament, please allow me to explain why, using the Bible.

the Bible clearly shows that the spiritual forces of evil even today and at the time when the New testament was written - they were and are today - located / dwelling / located and residing here on earth and their POWERS also are active today - in the Celestials - / heavenlies.

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in The Celestials / heavenlies


This Greek word in the " Celestials " / heavenlies = - is where the spiritual wickedness are even today - in - the Celestials / heavenlies

Also, located, where the Angels - who are themselves ““ Spirits ““ are also located - today the principalities, powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world, the powers of spiritual wickedness and the POWERS OF GOOD are CURRENTLY / NOW

in - the Celestials - / heavenlies \
What does this mean - spiritual wickedness in the Celestials / heavenlies ?

When the New Testament was written, the authors believed that Satan and his Angels were not kicked out of heaven but were on earth and also held power in the Celestials / heavenlies

Eph 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him in his own right in the The Celestials / heavenlies
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in the Celestials / heavenlies in Christ Jesus:

Eph 3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in the Celestials / heavenlies in Christ Jesus: might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in the Celestials / heavenlies in Christ Jesus: in the anointing

Don’’ t you agree - that the powers of spiritual wickedness in the Celestials / heavenlies in Christ Jesus: …… - this is also where The Anointing and Spirit Of God and the Powers of his Angels also are located. Does this seem very clear in God’’ s word. ?


From the very beginning we see in - Rev 1: Verse - 1 - that the Book Of Revelation is - The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, TO SHEW unto his servants T HINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: Verse - :3 Blessed he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein:

FOR THIS TIME AT HAND. From the very beginning, in Revelation, we see clearly that the entire Book is dedicated to - SHEWING unto his servants THE THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; = - the future.

In fact, there is not a single event or happening revealed in Revelation that mentions, brings up or reveals a single event from the past.
Every single last event in the Book is solely and entirely { only } about the Present and the Future only.
Also, very important - we notice the Greek word : meaning deceived ““

Rev 20:10 And the devil that ““ deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Again - Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceived deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

This is what is very, very important, notice what The Holy Spirit is saying here - it is saying that ““ Satan, which had deceived the whole / entire world - was cast out into the earth, and his ANGELS were cast out with him. From the very beginning, in Revelation, we see clearly that the entire Book is dedicated to - SHEWING unto his servants THE THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; = the future.

Nothing from the past is revealed, transpiring or ongoing in the Book Of Revelation.

What The Holy Spirit is saying here, in the original manuscripts - it is saying that ““ SATAN, WHICH HAD DECEIVED THE WHOLE / ENTIRE WORLD - WAS then afterward CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM.

Satan and his Angels are CAST OUT _ ONLY _ AFTER THEY HAD - deceived the whole entire world. The manuscripts are very clear.
The passages in Revelation are very chronological, very event- ly laid out step by step, event by event, exactly as God will do.

Chapter - 1. ”” Jesus commands John to Write a book and sent the book to the churches.

Saying - Write in a book what you have seen, WHAT IS NOW and what WILL TAKE PLACE LATER”” - not the past events and past timeline of his creation.

Rev 4:1 - in the manuscripts - continues to clarify and distinguish that this has absolutely nothing to do with the past. Saying Come up hither, and I WILL SHEW THEE THINGS WHICH MUST BE HEREAFTER.

If we read the book from the beginning, relying upon the original manuscripts, the Bible bears these facts out clearly. - Satan and His Angels are thrown out of heaven / FALLEN - only after they HAD succeeded in DECEIVING THE WHOLE / ENTIRE WORLD - then - WAS CAST OUT INTO THE EARTH, AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM.

I believe that some minor changes were made by the translators to alter the original manuscript message - altering the message in a number of passages - to insert the modern popular theology that the Giants were the product of fallen angels mating with humans.

I can show you every single one of these changes - original manuscripts matter.
 
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