Michael,
All you need to do is post the bible verses along with your comments. How hard is that?
Then at least we have a reference to start a conversation.
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Michael,
All you need to do is post the bible verses along with your comments. How hard is that?
Then at least we have a reference to start a conversation.
Willy--I have tried to explain to Christians for years and years that theology is not and never can be a sort of verse by verse (tossing at one another like hand grenades) "discussion". That sir is called doctrinal development.
Today the church is smothered in the deceptions of Catholicism and Protestantism's doctrine--AND--the world is filled with the roar of---an orchestra of NOISE! It is extremely difficult under those conditions to hear a solo violinist: He is the theologian, and when his note and harmony are perfectly synchronized to the music sheet he is reading: It is a most beautiful thing to those who hear him.
Let me give you one of the many obvious deceptions being perpetrated on you buddy.
In 1Corinthians 9:24 and Philippians 3:12-14, Paul describes himself as, running, beating his body, straining, pressing on toward the "goal", and trying to obtain and take hold of a prize. Given that Paul is the apostle most closely and strongly associated with the doctrine of grace----Let me ask you to use some common sense----do you really believe Paul was doing this for his eternal salvation? Because if you do, I have a really great World War I German tank I'll let you have for a little less than 10 million.
And what was Jesus talking about in Mark 10:13-15? Jesus can't be stating that we can never get our eternal salvation; that would make absolutely no sense whatsoever! And in Mathew 11:11-12 what was Jesus talking about. I mean if the "kingdom of heaven" signifies the same thing as eternal salvation; then this is an exceedingly strange remark. How exactly might "forceful men"---some translations read "violent men" lay hold of their eternal salvation?
What Jesus and Paul are explaining here is something that is achievable by what in the tradition parlance are called "works", as opposed to salvation, which is a free gift of grace.
Christians throughout the world therefore must face this stark FACT: The Bible either contradicts itself on an issue of central importance or the church---in a larger sense meaning the Christian community has made a critical error in how it interprets and teaches the gospel. In short my friend, the whole world--- including Christianity has been deceived, and I prove it!
However, when I try to warn the church-- I get accused of being a religious nut case, a fanatic, "Jerk is just trying to sell books" (I get that mean spirited remark from a lot of you Christians) I get banned from every Bible "study" from every church in the area in which I live, I get kicked out of Facebook "Bible study" groups, I get laughed at and shunned when I occasionally attend communion. (don't go very often- every time the Pastor sees me, he has a look like he's going to soil himself) and members of my own family; not only do not support me, but avoid me.
You know what...I don't care what any man thinks of me, I care what God thinks of me.
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