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Psalms 83 is the fulfillment and completion of Gen 16:12

if you look to your Catholic scriptures in
Genesis 16:12 - you will find a completely different translation than what the original manuscripts are telling you.

Catholic = Gen 16:12 He shall be a wild man: his hand will be against all men, and all men's hands against him: and he shall pitch his tents over against all his brethren.

Let’s see how that this is a completely false translation of Gen 16:12, regardless of the fact that - the Ishmaelites hand WERE NOT AGAINST EVERYONE AROUND THEM -

There is not even a speck of evidence anywhere that the Ishmaelites were at war or aggression - or against anyone except for the Jews - IN FACT THE ISHMAELTES ALLIED THEMSELVES IN PERFECT UNION WITH EVERYONE AROUND THEM WHO WERE AT WAR - SEEKING TO EXTERMINATE THE HEBREW RACE.

and the hand of everyone around them - were not against them - this is very untruthful
- the Ishmaelites, they were in complete harmony – union and alliance - hand in hand with everyone around them - in alliance with anyone who would seek to exterminate Israel.

and this is exactly what the bible manuscripts says, either the translation is a untruthful - or the manuscripts are untrue
Here is exactly what the original manuscripts say


Gen 16:12
והוא AND HE - יהיה WILL BECOME - פרא A WILD - אדם MAN
ידו THE HAND - בכל OF ALL ,,, - ויד THE HANDS -
כל OF ALL - בו HANDS - ועל־פני AGAINST THE FACE / PATH
כל־אחיו OF ALL HIS BROTHERS - ישׁכן׃ DWELLING

- DWELLING ישׁכן׃ = meaning - Lodging residence habitation

Meaning - verse :12

AND HE WILL BECOME A WILD MAN THE HAND OF ALL ,,,
OF ALL THE HANDS AGAINST THE FACE / PATH

OF ALL HIS BROTHERS DWELLING

- DWELLING ישׁכן׃ = meaning - Lodging residence habitation

We do not see / find the Hebrew word - ועל־פני AGAINST THE FACE / PATH repeated multiple times in verse :12 as the false translation demands - to say, -

his hand “ ועל against “ all men, all men's hands “ ועל against “ him

In fact the Hebrew word “ ועל against “ is found only one single ONLY ONE time in verse :12

to say……….………… ועל־פני AGAINST THE FACE / PATH OF ALL HIS BROTHERS DWELLING
The translators added this word two more times, inserting the word to pretend that the Hebrew word - ועל against “ is found three separate times in verse :12

What the angel was telling - Hagar , was that he will become wild, a wild man.
Ishmael’s seed would be the hand of everyone - of all hands - he will be the hands of everyone
everyone who are dwelling against - or who are placed SET against or who are positioned against - or who are
FIGHTING at war against his brothers existence / -
against his face / existence / presence the existence = of all his brothers.
The angel was telling Hagar is that - Ishmael literally, HE WOULD BE THE HAND OF EVERYONE, of all hands of all people - or his dwelling place - his habitat, would be “ hand in hand “ with the enemies of Israel.
in hand of all who are against the face, or in the path - of all his brothers.
IN fact - the Ishmaelites were in complete harmony with everyone around them - in union with all those who were - FIGHTING at war against his brothers -
against their face / existence / presence face

In fact the Manuscripts are perfectly correct, the Ishmaelites joined and allied themselves against Israel in seeking to destroy and exterminate his brothers - Israel.

And the Ishmaelites never, EVER had dwelled in the presence of their brothers - the Hebrews./

The manuscripts are correct _ and the translation was codified and manipulated to represent the idea that the Muslims who came along 2000 years after Ishmael were themselves descendants of Ishmaelites.
The Quran alone - is the only source on the planet that mentions the idea that the Muslims who came along 2000 years after Ishmael were descendants of Ishmaelites.
no catholic writers, no Catholics father, no popes, priests nor any catholic historians, no one - before Mohammud - not a single person - no biblical scriptures anywhere on the planet - before Mohammud

No historical evidence anywhere in world history, before Mohammud - no artifacts, no tablets or drawings, no scrolls, no fictional books, no books or stories anywhere depict the Muslims who came along 2000 years after Ishmael were descendants of Ishmaelites.
the Quran alone -

Mohmmud - is the sole and originating authority for the Roman Catholic Church .

Roman Catholics and have even altered and changed / MANIPULATED Gen 16:12 in order to propagate the revelation of the Quran that depicts the Muslims who came along 2000 years after Ishmael - as descendants of Ishmaelites.
Outside of the Bible - the people called ishamaelites never even mentioned to have existed on planet earth, until Mohammud - in fact, not a single name of Ishmaels 12 sons are even mentioned in the Quran.
This is a Roman Catholic fabrication - progenated by the Quran’s prophecy, revelation and spiritual claims …
In fact, the Bible prophecies and reveals - promising that God would destroy the Ishmaelite people, that they would be destroyed and perish forever… and the Bible details King Saul and King David going to war and destroying the people called Ishmaelites,

in fact after King David, the people called Ishmaelites are never mentioned in the Bible - ever ever again.


Yet, Catholics have them living 2000 + years after Abraham, because of the Qurans prophecy and revelation, - no biblical scriptures anywhere on the planet - before Mohammud
No
historical evidence anywhere in world history, before Mohammud - no artifacts, no tablets or drawings, no scrolls, no fictional books, no books or stories anywhere depict any Arabs / Muslims who came along after King David up to 2000 years thereafter as descendants of Ishmael . - Mohammud Quran Alone.

King David in Psalms 83 ended the prophecy that is mentioned in Gen 16:12

Psa 83:2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

:6 and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

:9 Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:

:10 Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.

:17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
:18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
 
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