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lighthouse
11-13-2008, 06:45 AM
Ex-Hitler youth's warning to America

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Ex-Hitler youth's warning to America
'Every day brings this nation closer to Nazi-style totalitarian abyss'

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Posted: November 13, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily




WASHINGTON – Because it has abandoned moral absolutes and its historic Christian faith, the U.S. is moving closer to a Nazi-style totalitarianism, warns a former German member of the Hitler Youth in a new book.

"Every day brings this nation closer to a Nazi-style totalitarian abyss," writes Hilmar von Campe, now a U.S. citizen, and author of "Defeating the Totalitarian Lie: A Former Hitler Youth Warns America."

Von Campe has founded the national Institute for Truth and Freedom to fight for a return to constitutional government in the U.S. – a key, he believes, to keeping America free.

"I lived the Nazi nightmare, and, as the old saying goes, 'A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument,'" writes von Campe. "Everything I write is based on my personal experience in Nazi Germany. There is nothing theoretical about my description of what happens when a nation throws God out of government and society, and Christians become religious bystanders. I don't want to see a repetition. The role of God in human society is the decisive issue for this generation. My writing is part of my life of restitution for the crimes of a godless government, of the evil of which I was a part

lighthouse
11-13-2008, 06:45 AM
Von Campe grew up under the Nazis, served in the Hitler Youth and fought against the Red Army in the Yugoslavian theater as a tank gunner in the German army. He was captured at the end of the war and escaped five months later from a prisoner of war camp in Communist Yugoslavia.

"It took me a long time to understand and define the nature of National Socialism," says von Campe. "And, unfortunately, their philosophy continues to flourish under different labels remaining a menace to America and free human society."

He writes: "The most painful part of defining National Socialism was to recognize my own moral responsibility for the Nazi disaster and their crimes against humanity. It boiled down to accepting the truth that 'as I am, so is my nation,' and realizing that if every German was like me, it was no wonder that the nation became a cesspool of gangsters. This realization is as valid today for any person in any nation as it was then, and it is true for America and every American now."

Von Campe's message is that political freedom and democratic rules alone are not sufficient to govern humanity justly.

"Democratic procedures can be subverted and dishonest politicians are like sand in the gearbox, abundant, everywhere and destructive," he writes. "What I see in America today is people painting their cabins while the ship goes down. Today in America we are witnessing a repeat performance of the tragedy of 1933 when an entire nation let itself be led like a lamb to the Socialist slaughterhouse. This time, the end of freedom is inevitable unless America rises to her mission and destiny."

Von Campe says he sees spiritual parallels among Americans and his childhood Germany.

"The silence from our pulpits regarding the moral collapse of American society from within is not very different from the silence that echoed from the pulpits in Germany toward Nazi policies," he explains. "Our family lived through the Nazi years in Germany, an experience typical of millions of Europeans regardless of what side they were on. We paid a high price for the moral perversions of a German government, which excluded God and His Commandments from their policies. America must not continue following the same path to destruction, but instead heed the lessons of history and the warning I am giving."

Specifically, von Campe warns Americans their political leaders are on the wrong footing, "denying our cultural and traditional roots based on our unique Constitution and Christian orientation as a nation. Christians don't understand their mission."

Eutychus
11-13-2008, 09:29 AM
Do You read World Net Daily? I just saw that book on the web site.

CoreIssue
11-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Hitler was a socialist. Russia socialist. Europe and Canada are now Welfare States, a soft type of socialism.

EU is moving to ban Christianity while tolerating Islam because they fear the physical nature of Islam but hate the message of the Bible. Canada is moving that direction as well.

America is in the beginning stages, at a crossroad, where it will have to choose. Obama and the Democratic Party are socialist.

The strong reaction against the Biblical God is because regardless of what one says their spirits know he is the true God. They don't want him.

The worldly reaction against Islam is because they know it is of Man. They believe they can handle it.

The embracing of Humanism and liberal Christianity is a comfort to human pride and ego. It feeds their sense of being gods.

Itching ears rule now. Truth is shoved aside. Tolerance of truth is becoming hatred of the truth and the messengers.

kay-gee
11-13-2008, 02:22 PM
I'd sure like to know how you are defining as welfare states and soft socialism!

all the best...

CoreIssue
11-14-2008, 09:27 PM
Welfare State (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-welfare-state.htm)

Other readings show that at first Welfare States are very happy with the care, but, over time, government control and spending become adverse and the quality and desire for government run health care declines.

Why? Because at first it save people money, but then becomes a financial burden due to taxes, which result in lowered quality, availability, etc.

As for soft socialism, socialism is when everything is nationalized. Welfare is when significant portions are nationalized or nationally controlled, not free market.

So, if you don't like the term 'soft,' try fringe, on the doorstep or whatever conveys some free market but too much intrusion of government into hands on running or paying for things.

kay-gee
11-14-2008, 10:11 PM
Glad you cleared that up. I'm not so sure the term accurately applies to my country. Not that many things are nationalized. Not in the way of commodities and industry. We have a form of wealth sharing, but it is kinda essential. We are the largest country in the world and also the least populated in th world. Wealth distribution simply allows for a standard of services to exsist across the country and remoter areas. Also...just because a government takes an active interest in the people it governs, does not make it some sort of evil system.

all the best...

CoreIssue
11-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Glad you cleared that up. I'm not so sure the term accurately applies to my country. Not that many things are nationalized. Not in the way of commodities and industry. We have a form of wealth sharing, but it is kinda essential. We are the largest country in the world and also the least populated in th world. Wealth distribution simply allows for a standard of services to exsist across the country and remoter areas. Also...just because a government takes an active interest in the people it governs, does not make it some sort of evil system.

all the best...
Actually, Russia is almost twice as large as Canada.

And no. It isn't essential in the form of forcibly taking excessive amounts. That is socialistic thinking. Meaning people are incapable of doing it on their own.

Many of the problems in the world are created by overt intervention of government.

Sure, some government is needed. But not to where the world is going. Canada more so than the US, which is getting worse.

If Canada were so superior then why is their a regular flow across the border to get services in the US? Why is Canada cutting back on what is offered?

Answer is simple. Government is incredibly inefficient in such areas. Canada is in the same boat as Europe. Spent so much it is breaking the bank.

We all need answers. But socialism isn't the answer. Look what it did to Cuba, Russia, China and so forth. Disasters.

Jessie
11-14-2008, 11:20 PM
Glad you cleared that up. I'm not so sure the term accurately applies to my country. Not that many things are nationalized. Not in the way of commodities and industry. We have a form of wealth sharing, but it is kinda essential. We are the largest country in the world and also the least populated in th world. Wealth distribution simply allows for a standard of services to exsist across the country and remoter areas. Also...just because a government takes an active interest in the people it governs, does not make it some sort of evil system.

all the best...
Actually, Russia is almost twice as large as Canada.

And no. It isn't essential in the form of forcibly taking excessive amounts. That is socialistic thinking. Meaning people are incapable of doing it on their own.

Many of the problems in the world are created by overt intervention of government.

Sure, some government is needed. But not to where the world is going. Canada more so than the US, which is getting worse.

If Canada were so superior then why is their a regular flow across the border to get services in the US? Why is Canada cutting back on what is offered?

Answer is simple. Government is incredibly inefficient in such areas. Canada is in the same boat as Europe. Spent so much it is breaking the bank.

We all need answers. But socialism isn't the answer. Look what it did to Cuba, Russia, China and so forth. Disasters.


I've heard that the generation before my grandparents would'nt take charity from the gov. and even others. they knew where it would lead.
even poor, they had some scruples.

some have some dont and the bible is clear on how they should do if they belong to Him, but the poor will always be here.
people want to live on life support, our technology is even a burden financialy.

Willy
11-15-2008, 01:53 AM
As Christians, what type of government, if any, do we see as best representing the will of God?:safe:

Eutychus
11-15-2008, 09:46 AM
From the founding documents until the post WW2 liberalism implemented by the Supreme Court under justice Earl Warren the form of a Democratic Republic we have was the best. It is all about the presuppositions the govt. adheres to. You could have a very good govt. under a benevolent and Godly King. It is not necessarily the type of govt but the relationship of the govt to Jesus. Not just to God because God has been defined as very different in other religions. It is the Biblical mindset and belief in Jesus Christ that makes sound principals to govern by. All fallen Human attempts at creating the perfect govt have failed, the USA has come closest so far but has failed miserably in some areas and is headed fast into Humanism, which will try and eradicate our Biblical presuppositions.

kay-gee
11-15-2008, 10:24 AM
I fail to see any connection between God and government. One is one, the other is the other. Even Jesus made that very plain in the story of the Roman coin. The idea somehow of US being founded on "Christian" principles is laughable, historically inaccurate, and proof of how a little propaganda can go a long way.

all the best...

CoreIssue
11-15-2008, 10:47 AM
As Christians, what type of government, if any, do we see as best representing the will of God?:safe:
One that has elected officials who live and govern by Biblical principles of living their own lives and dealing with others, including non Christians while not being a theocracy or denominationally based.

The Bible teaches freewill and recognizing other do not all agree with our beliefs. We respect their rights to believe as they will but do not condone destructive sin activity and nature, such as gay rights and abortion and hold people to personal responsibility.

It demands we persuade people to elect those with Godly principles, not force a government upon them.