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a.baker
08-28-2008, 11:04 AM
o.k. I have been reading about David and his sons. I am finding thats much easier to read than I thought it would be. So if I come across anything within the next few days with this section I will let you know.

CoreIssue
08-28-2008, 01:49 PM
o.k. I have been reading about David and his sons. I am finding thats much easier to read than I thought it would be. So if I come across anything within the next few days with this section I will let you know.
Sure.

David is an interesting study in faith versus humanity. So is Solomon. Add in how God deals with both as well.

a.baker
08-28-2008, 05:24 PM
I agree and I am really into it. Sometimes the relation of family, I have to stop and think but than I get it, who is who. Its just the way its worded is different. But I am sure I will need your help soon enough with it. Right now I am at the part where David is fleeing, doesn't know where yet just the city because his son is after him. I see how David is reacting to that. That would be so very hard to have your own son coming after you, I can't imagine.

CoreIssue
08-28-2008, 06:42 PM
Things like that happen more than many believe, in a spectrum of ways.

a.baker
08-29-2008, 02:39 PM
2 Samuel 20:3 talks about Davids 10 concubines. Now were those women his wives? How did marriage work back in those times?

Jessie
08-29-2008, 02:51 PM
Things like that happen more than many believe, in a spectrum of ways.

yep the older I get and the more I see, they sure do.

what is the difference between a concubine and a wife?

a.baker
09-02-2008, 04:41 PM
Now I am into Kings 1 and reading about Solomon.

CoreIssue
09-02-2008, 04:53 PM
2 Samuel 20:3 talks about Davids 10 concubines. Now were those women his wives? How did marriage work back in those times?
A concubine can mean an unmarried sex partner living with a man or a lower ranked wife in polygamy.

With David I believe they were all wives, but they had rankings, with the first wife over the others.

Jessie
09-02-2008, 05:15 PM
2 Samuel 20:3 talks about Davids 10 concubines. Now were those women his wives? How did marriage work back in those times?
A concubine can mean an unmarried sex partner living with a man or a lower ranked wife in polygamy.

With David I believe they were all wives, but they had rankings, with the first wife over the others.


I dont get it.... unmarried sex parteners yet they howl about being married and having a virgin?
seems hypricritical.

CoreIssue
09-02-2008, 06:19 PM
2 Samuel 20:3 talks about Davids 10 concubines. Now were those women his wives? How did marriage work back in those times?
A concubine can mean an unmarried sex partner living with a man or a lower ranked wife in polygamy.

With David I believe they were all wives, but they had rankings, with the first wife over the others.


I dont get it.... unmarried sex parteners yet they howl about being married and having a virgin?
seems hypricritical.
That was a common attitude back then in much of that world.

In fact, other countries just arbitrary had sex with slaves as the felt like it then moved on or put them back to work.

But remember, not all women had a problem with the system. And many young men had women forced on them for political and economic power reasons of parents.

Really not a nice system that is not dead today in many Islamic, African and other societies.

Jessie
09-02-2008, 06:23 PM
2 Samuel 20:3 talks about Davids 10 concubines. Now were those women his wives? How did marriage work back in those times?
A concubine can mean an unmarried sex partner living with a man or a lower ranked wife in polygamy.

With David I believe they were all wives, but they had rankings, with the first wife over the others.


I dont get it.... unmarried sex parteners yet they howl about being married and having a virgin?
seems hypricritical.
That was a common attitude back then in much of that world.

In fact, other countries just arbitrary had sex with slaves as the felt like it then moved on or put them back to work.

But remember, not all women had a problem with the system. And many young men had women forced on them for political and economic power reasons of parents.

Really not a nice system that is not dead today in many Islamic, African and other societies.


I agree. I have often wondered how would a woman or a man in this situation believing in God handle this?
do they just go along with it as they'd have no choice?

I've thought too of how the men were expected to "raise" up children to a dead brother. the thought of sleeping with their brothers wife whom they might not want to be with period would be discusting on a emotional level.
:ick:

was that mans law or Gods?