The Jihad Candidate

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http://www.2sistersfromtheright.com/writings/Rich_Carroll/jihadcandidate.html


The Jihad Candidate
by Rich Carroll

Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. 'The Manchurian Candidate' and 'Seven Days in May' are examples of plausible chains of events that captures the reader's imagination at best-seller level. 'What if' has always been the solid grist of fiction.
Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but before you continue, visualize the television photos of two jet airliners smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years.

How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota? The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as 'chaplains'?

Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a 'freedom fighter' when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya's history. Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa, a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile. Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barack Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of 'racism'. Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa.

Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception, because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as 'bigoted racism'; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.

Where is the bloodhound American 'free press' who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case? Where are our nation's reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush's 'Skull and Bones' club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work? Why haven't 'newsmen' pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries? Where are the stories about this candidate's cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa? Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent? Why haven't they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this 'out of nowhere' Democrat candidate or the fact that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his 'close pastor friend and mentor' met with Middle East terrorist Muammar Qaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)? Why isn't the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?

As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history. Why has the American mainstream media clammed up on any negative reporting on Barak Hussein Obama? Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton's name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name? Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from mainstream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth? Why isn't our media connecting the dots with Islam? Why do they focus on 'those bad American soldiers' while Islam slaughters non-Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer to Darfur as 'ethnic cleansing' instead of what it really is: Muslims killing non-Muslims! There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barack Hussein Obama to pique the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?

A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohammed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. 'The process of settlement' of Muslims in America, Akram explained, 'is a civilization jihad process.' This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in 'America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions.'

There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings forth a volley of 'racist' from the left-wing Democrat crowd.

Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for 'The Manchurian Candidate' or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation's White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic Sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States? Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to disarm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?

Change for America? What change? To become another 'nation of Islam'?

[CoreIssue]

We are in deep trouble. Obama is a disaster, but so is McCain, but not quite as bad as Obama.

Disagree or not, but here is what hope happens. Between Nadar, Barr and others I hope at least 25% vote 3rd party, with Barr getting close to 20.

No, I do not believe that will get Obama elected. Looking at Democratic primary totals is a serious mistake. A lot of non-Democrats voted in those primaries to try to steer the choice to the worst possible Dem.

I believe McCain will win, but I want a serious scare to the Republicans about loosing Conservatives to the the Independents and Independents to 3rd party, such as Libertarians.

If that does not happen and McCain wins then next election who knows, Hillary may be running as a Republican.

[lighthouse]

obama will be elected
it is the right time
we are at the end of our great nation
but near the return of christ
he will indeed be president

i will vote for mccain others will do as you do so obama
mr teflon will be elected
MARK MY WORDS

hear me well
i have the same feeling as i did before 9/11
i know obama will win
because

this world is waiting for that man
who will come in his own name
it is time


john 5:43
I came in the name of my Father, but you do not accept me; yet if another comes in his own name, you will accept him.

[CoreIssue]

Question. What makes you think McCain would not embrace the AC?

He is obsessed with compromise and unity. I can see him doing it.

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http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTNlYTQyNWM3NGVjYjUzZDkzNjI2YzQwM2NkMDhmOTE=


Messiah In Our Midst
The One, the Anointed.

By Jonah Goldberg

Is Barack Obama the Messiah?



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/06/06/notes060608.DTL

Is Obama an enlightened being?
Spiritual wise ones say: This sure ain't no ordinary politician. You buying it

To them I say, all right, you want to know what it is? The appeal, the pull, the ethereal and magical thing that seems to enthrall millions of people from all over the world, that keeps opening up and firing into new channels of the culture normally completely unaffected by politics?


No, it's not merely his youthful vigor, or handsomeness, or even inspiring rhetoric. It is not fresh ideas or cool charisma or the fact that a black president will be historic and revolutionary in about a thousand different ways. It is something more. Even Bill Clinton, with all his effortless, winking charm, didn't have what Obama has, which is a sort of powerful luminosity, a unique high-vibration integrity




Here's where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul

[lighthouse]

because it is not mccain
it is obama

and ps mccain has confessed Christ as his risen Saviour
obama said there are many paths to god

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http://www.webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=meekinsf&date=080605

And Will Obama Save Us From Our Sins?:
Adoration Of Candidate Borders On The Fanatically Frightening

[CoreIssue]

because it is not mccain
it is obama
I understand. But I solidly see McCain totally able to embrace the AC.

He is not a Biblical Christian, contrary to what some thing. Not meaning you necessarily. :tiphat:

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Excitement in France over Obama victory
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/06/europe/obamania.php


According to Samuel Solvit, president of France's support committee for Barack Obama, the French have not been this excited about America since they shipped over the Statue of Liberty in 1885.

Obamania has gripped most of Europe

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it is obama
may OUR HOLY LORD ENLIGHTEN YOU
obama
he will be elected by a landside
it simply is time
bush is our last president
obama our first dictator
ps i am by far not the only one who sees this

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Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.


The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth. This was the moment - this was the time - when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves, and our highest ideals. Thank you, God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.
Obama's Nomination Victory Speech In St. Paul June 3, 2008.

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His story exemplifies the quest of the Solar Hero -- does it not feel Some Special Hand is guiding his journey?


The constellation Perseus pictures the story of the Hero Perseus, holding the head of Medussa, which he had just severed with his sword. Perseus was greatly aided by the gods in his quest to destroy the Medussa, whose very glance could turn a person into stone. He was given a magic sword, Athena's shield, winged sandals with which he could fly, a magic cap which rendered him invisible, and the guidance for him to not directly look into Medussas face as he battled her, but to look at her in the reflection of his shield.

There were two stars that were highlighted by the comet's passage, Mirfak, and Algol. Mirfak is the elbow of Perseus's sword hand. Algol, Medussa'a eye, has long been seen as one of the most malifec and evil stars in the heavens.


Obama was born with his sun in Leo, and his story exemplifies the quest of the Solar Hero. His father, who joins with his mother on an island, conceives a child, and soon thereafter leaves the child and mother to continue his own journeying. Obama, a 'special 'child, left to create his own internal image of 'father', and related meanings of strength, protection, leadership, etc.


The Holmes comet appears just as the presidential race is kicking into high gear, illuminating the concept of the hero vanquishing the monster, a monster that turns people into stone if they gaze upon her. Does it not seem as if our country today is all locked up, constricted, restricted, with ever shrinking mobility and freedom of movement?


Perseus had help from the gods. Does it not feel as if some special hand is guiding Obama on his journey, I mean, as he has said, the utter improbability of it all?


The instructions to not directly look at her, but to look at her reflection in his shield. What is Obama's shield, in essence? I propose it is his belief in hope, redemption, and his ability to channel the essential goodness of the American people. The Perseus myth clearly indicates he should not confront his opponent by face-to-face, tit-for-tat combat.


Of especial significance for me is the star Mirfak, the elbow of Perseus's sword arm. At some point, he does need to utilize his elbows, and when the moment comes, cut strongly and swiftly.


And lastly, let us not forget that the comet is BLUE.


So let us have hope, the gods are on our side, and the Hero will prevail.
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/

[lighthouse]

i hope i put the fear of the real God in people
as i said before my landlady is german
her first husband a nazi
and said obama was the rebirth of hitler

my great gandparents thought hitler was the ac
and expected to be raptured in their day
well they will be waiting for me

get ready folks our ride is about to begin!!

[Jessie]

gods of mans own makings.

why does it never occur to folks that man cant make a god?

[lighthouse]

So, Geraldine, I’m taking a special look at Barack Obama because he’s a lot closer to a Jesus-type than the other candidates, by quite a bit. What if God decided to incarnate as men preaching “hope and change.” And what if we didn’t recognize them, because we are so dull, and let them slip away, not availing ourselves of the opportunity to be led by God! Lord knows we’ve elected the anti-Christ often enough. Excuse me, George.

[lighthouse]

no but jessie the ac comes in his own name and makes himself god
and the jews are waiting for their messiah
when the ac appears they well
at first think
that their messiah has come

be excited jessie
because our time on this side
grows short indeed

[lighthouse]

the ac will cause
all to worship him
as god

ps except those that come to Christ
during the tribuation

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The Obama Phenomenon"


...."The phenomenon in question is this: the intense desire of every human being on this planet to overcome and transcend the materialism and selfishness that shape the global economic arrangements and permeate the consciousness of all people, to overcome the looking-out-for-number one consciousness that divides us and the technocratic language that shapes our public institutions and denies us access to our common humanity, and to overcome the alienation from each other that this way of being has created so that we might once again recognize each other as embodiments of God or Spirit (or however you want to talk about the force-field of goodness, generosity, kindness, justice, peace, nonviolence, and care for each other and nature and the entirety of all that is).....

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He's no ordinary man," said Sparrow, who calls Obama a man of resplendid vision with the wisdom of Solomon, the biblical king of Israel. ``I see people my age in the 70s, 80s, 60s, 50s screaming out in appreciation like when the Beatles first came to America. I can't believe that older people would react that way. That is one of the reasons why I believe he was sent by the Messiah."

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no offense core
people will hate mccain

i am waiting for obama to get a head wound and come back to life
then i will have absolutley no doubt

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He appeals to all that is innate and created in us in a longing for that “better country, that is a heavenly one” discussed in Hebrews 11"


The only thing that would have made it more delicious would have been if he had come to Eugene, Oregon, on Palm Sunday rather than on Good Friday. And if his supporters had been waving palm fronds rather than “Change You Can Believe In!” placards. The Obama phenomena has risen to the level of religious, almost messianic fervor.

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Obama, to me, must be not just an ordinary human being but indeed an Advanced Soul, come to lead America out of this mess

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That is all that matters, no matter what the political outcome is, he has tapped into a force greater than what we have ever faced, he speaks directly to our hearts, bypassing our conscience and connecting with the root of our psyche. So that even if we try to hold hard to that which continue to divide us, because of our fear, our ignorance, and our childish philosophies of unchanging solutions; his message transcends our reach.

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Americans are exhorted to "join the movement".


In Georgia, he directly equated his supporters with God's people: "God had a plan for his people. He told them to stand together and march together around the city… and when the horn sounded and a chorus of voices cried out together, the mighty walls of Jericho came tumbling down."


Later in the speech, he asked the congregation to "walk with me, march with me… and if enough of our voices join together, we can bring those walls tumbling down."

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"He's all things to all men. At least that's how I put it."

The Canadian Press, February 26, 2008

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This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better," he said. "This young man is capturing audiences of black and brown and red and yellow. If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."

A Spry Farrakhan Sings Obama's Praises Associated Press. February 24, 2008.

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Dawn had not broken, and yet the television images showed Dallas' Reunion Arena and a long line of silhouetted people already gathering for an event not scheduled until noon.

They were awaiting the messianic figure of a presidential candidate who had just added two more wins to his victory column and who the night before had ignited a crowd of about 20,000 in Houston.


Barack Obama was coming to town. .

Bob Ray Sanders, Star Telegram February 24, 2008.

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But what if God is trying to make a statement in 2008 through the meteoric rise of a new symbol -- a charismatic, eloquent senator from Illinois who is turning conventional American politics on its head? That food for thought will form the basis of Sunday's sermon by Pastor John Van Sloten at New Hope Church, . . .

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I did not know the tall guy in front of me; he is white, I am black. But at the moment we shook hands, I felt some solidarity with this stranger, consummated by a handshake and signifying some unspoken agreement presumably about Barack Obama and his core message of UNITY!

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This is not a campaign for president of the United States, this is a movement to change the world,""I can't really verbalize exactly what it is about him," says Avila. "Part of it is just beyond explanation."

Lisa Lehrer, Politico Feb 20, 2008. he said as he introduced Obama last week in Baltimore.

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It was like Barack Obama was INSIDE her head"


For Christena Weatherspoon of Struthers, it was like Barack Obama was inside her head.

After the Democratic presidential candidate’s 45-minute address to at Youngstown State University, Weatherspoon said she was speechless. She said, "It was like he knows what I want."
Obama brings message of Hope, by Stephen Oravecz. Tribune-Chronicle February 19, 2008.

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Instead, he insists on the freedom of a collective American Messiah who has come to mobilise all disillusioned children of American democracy to open up a new frontier in politics. This is Obama's venture of building hope using the power of hope.

Okello Oculi, Daily Monitor AllAfrica.com. February 20, 2008.

[lighthouse]

thats enough i can do many more
i know who and what he is


I just pray that people wake up

but the real God said that He would send them a strong delusion that they would believe a lie

[lighthouse]

that also means our home going for those of us that truly
know the Real God and Our Risen Saviour Jesus Christ
will be going home
soon and very soon
we will indeed meet our King!!

because the ac
i firmly believe will not be revealed
until we go first

[CoreIssue]

The American people are on a road to socialized disaster. I fully agree.

We are in big time trouble.

[a.baker]

I agree there is something about him I just don't like. I feel he might win. I guess Hillary and Obama had a meeting together and afterward when she left she said she was going to drop out of the campaign and not run for vice president either. And she seemed pleased with what them two talked about behind closed doors. I don't want him , I don't want McCain , I don't want anyone I see. I already told my husband I am not going to vote because there is no point in this election. They are all horrible liars and I have a bad feeling with whom ever it is going to be what change are they going to make about our current situations. Especially the one with war. I don't know, thats my 2 cents. And speaking of Obama I would never vote for someone if they won't pledge to our flag or sing our anthem or choose to be for America period.

[InTheWind]

It`s a mess alright and very weird, theres something that stinks about all this.:(
But if we`re in the time just before the trib follow your heart, trust God and He will show us the way. :nod:

[lighthouse]

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080601/i/ra1884211108.jpg?

[lighthouse]

the above is not photo shopped

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Democratic-Primaries/ss/events/pl/050608democraticprim/im:/080601/ids_photos_india_wl/ra1884211108.jpg/

[lighthouse]

this world is waiting for that man
who will come in his own name

john 5:43
I came in the name of my Father, but you do not accept me; yet if another comes in his own name, you will accept him.

[lighthouse]

he is bi racial
both black and white
he says he is a christian but has a muslim heritage

he is all things to all people

[lighthouse]

My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it.” – Barack Obama

[lighthouse]

interesting read

hmmmm

http://l3rucewayne.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/which-candidate-is-most-like-nicolae-carpathia-aka-the-anti-christ-in-the-left-behind-series/

[kay-gee]

Nothing new under the sun. People thought JFK was gonna sell USA out to the anti-Christ, cause he was RC... ho-hum!

all the best...

[a.baker]

This my my whole thing. If your going to be our president you better chose a side and it better be ours and you better put your all into bettering it for the sake of Americans. You better have pride for our country and pride for those that risk their lives for it.

I understand the bible talks about unity. Thats unity between us Christians to form the body. Not unity between black and white or light and dark. Any true Christian would know Obama is trying to make this gray color which in turn would make our country very weak for attack. There are so many countries just waiting for this to happen so there becomes this trust between our once enemies and so they can turn and stab us in our backs.

I agree ITW lets let this world have what it wants and let us Christians be separate from it by seeing the world for what it is and sticking close to our Lord who will triumphantly get us through one way or another. Lets trust, wait and when time go.

[InTheWind]

Coruption is very deep, i found this vidio very interesting.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=the+energu+non-crisis#

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/IamHis/adoringadolph.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/IamHis/adoringobama.jpg

[lighthouse]

kay i remeber kenndy
this is not the same thing
this is world wide

http://www.catholicexchange.com/2008/05/21/112550/print/


The Beginning of the Gospel of Barack Obama, the Son of God (According to Mark Shea)

Posted By Mark Shea On May 21, 2008 @ 12:00 am In Mark Shea, Today | 16 Comments

1:1 As it is written in the AP Manual, “Behold, I send my press corps before thy face, who shall prepare thy way”. And so it came to pass that pundits went forth into all that country, preaching a vote of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. And lo, these pundits spake by the Spirit of the Age, going into all their towns and cities and declaring:

1:2 “He is not operating on the same plane as ordinary politicians . . . [he is] the agent of transformation in an age of revolution, as a figure uniquely qualified to open the door to the 21st century.” - [1] Gary Hart

1:3 “Barack Obama is our collective representation of our purest hopes, our highest visions and our deepest knowings . . . He’s our product out of the all-knowing quantum field of intelligence.” - [2] Eve Konstantine

1:4 “This is bigger than Kennedy . . . This is the New Testament.” “I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often. No, seriously. It’s a dramatic event.” - [3] Chris [4] Matthews

1:5 “[Obama is] creative imagination which coupled with brilliance equals wisdom . . . [He is] the man for this time.” - [5] Toni Morrison

1:6 “Obama’s finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don’t even really inspire. They elevate. . . . He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh . . . Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves.” - [6] Ezra Klein


ps this one is a spoof
but fun to read

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http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/06/02/barack-obama-is-not-a-christian/

Barack Obama Is Not a Christian - Cal Thomas

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“I’m rooted in the Christian tradition,” said Obama, who has declared himself a Christian. But then he adds something that most Christians will see as universalism: “I believe there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

. . .

Here’s Obama telling Falsani, “The difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that if people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior, they’re going to hell.” Falsani adds, “Obama doesn’t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell. But he’s not sure he’ll be going to heaven, either.”


. . .



Here’s Obama again: “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I’ve been a good father to them, and I see that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they’re kind people and that they’re honest people, and they’re curious people, that’s a little piece of heaven.”

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http://i31.tinypic.com/2609w61.jpg

"We have a hero in the making back in the United States today because we have a new candidate for president of the United States, Barack Obama," Lucas said when asked who his childhood heroes were.

Obama, "for all of us that have dreams and hope, is a hero," Lucas said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080604062402.9hhqclqi&show_article=1

[lighthouse]

ps kay
maybe he is not the ac
but he will give hilter a run for the money
especially if you are white and a real Christian
just watch how fast we are called haters

even the conservative talk radio folks are saying the same thing
they feel if he gets in
their days are numbered
personally i believe we are in the last stage of our nation
just before we hit
BONDAGE
obama will help to usher in that stage
mark my words
hear what i say

in one year if i am wrong
i will happily eat them
but i doubt if i will

[CoreIssue]

Lighthouse, many things I have an opinion on and guess. But this I can say absolutely, Obama is NOT the AC and Islam is NOT the religion of the AC..

The AC will rise out of the EU and I most assuredly believe he is alive and there right now.

[InTheWind]

Doesn`t the AC have a little horn?
My thought is that video about the oil is true and this country is going down the tubes soon, Obama becomes prez the economy collapses, the AC comes on the scene and with the influence and wonders between the two of them the AC runs this country. I`m still wondering about the 2012 event also, if that is bad that could be a mid trib event which would account for the terrible times of the second half.
Rapture should be any time, Satan is trying to line things up for the trib again imo.

[CoreIssue]

When I read the prophecies I don't think the US will be one of the countries who fights with the AC, but against. The Bible is very clear not every country will.

I think the US is at least part of the force from the west that turns the AC back at Mid Trib, at which time he enters Israel.

Will the US be upright and behind God? I don't think so. But neither do I believe it will actually bow, as a nation, to the AC.

[monilove]

Obama the AC? Thats a new one on me! Especially since it doesnt come close to anything Biblical. I like others do not find either Obama or McCain appealing. If our nation wants to grow stronger I dont see that happening under either of them. And people pls stop falling for this "they say they're saved so lets vote for them" gimmick. Billy Graham supported Nixon for the same reason. We got him and then what a mess! Everyone who names Christ is not saved. As II Corinthians state their are those who preach another Jesus. Their Jesus appears at political season and disappears in a puff of smoke afterwards. I think we forget that this is the world we're speaking of. People act as though the world has always been Christian and now all of a sudden its going to Hell in a handbasket. Well its always been Hell in a hand basket since Adam disobeyed. Ecclesiastes says there's nothing new under sun. Whats happening now has already been. Obama didnt win the popular vote. He has opposition from non Christians as well. When the AC arises, his following will not question his experience, his background or his abilities. His reputation will precede him as a man who is capable of doing the impossible. This is not the belief most Americans hold of Obama despite all the propaganda on cable news. In fact Clinton supporters overwhelmingly side with McCain over Obama. The only significance of Obama is that he is the first African American DC presidential hopeful(and he's biracial so the fact news venues continue to promote him as African-American only shows we havent strayed too far from the Jim Crow era).
This is the "world" at its best right now. Doing what it loves. Catering to people's flesh and throwing in a lil Jesus where its convenient. I'd consider Oprah the AC before Obama(thats how ludicrous this thought is IMO). After all isnt she the one credited for Obama's victory? I've seen way more posts supporting her for President than I have Obama or Clinton or McCain.
Anyway the Bible speaks of the tribulation as a time of such horror, pain, fear that the world has not known since the flood. Things are bad however in Christ we are still not destroyed as Paul writes. All manner of evil comes against us to persecute or cast us down but in Christ under this age of Grace we are blessed. When this age is over the dark days come and the return of judgement. I dont think our finite minds have the ability to contemplate the horrors coming ahead. I am a pretrib believer. Paul writes in Romans that the righteous will not experience the wrath of God and I believe that.

[a.baker]

And I believe that too. Well said. And things are lining up but we still have some time to go.

[CoreIssue]

And people pls stop falling for this "they say they're saved so lets vote for them" gimmick.
He belongs to a denomination into Liberation Theology. The call it the Social Gospel or the Gospel of Social Justice. They praise Louis Farrakhan. In South America Liberation Theology is tied to Communists.

Think about it.

[InTheWind]

The first half of the trib isn`t as bad as the great trib. and that`s when the AC will solve problems and deceive many. My thought was that either Obama or Hillery would make good prez`s while the AC is in power. I don`t think we will have a clue who the AC is while we`re here on earth.

[CoreIssue]

You are right. We won't.

Thessalonians says he will not be revealed until the Rapture/First Seal/coming of the Two Witnesses.

[kay-gee]

Monilove, you hit on a very good point. Ecc 6:1 an evil under the sun and prevailent among men. Nothing new. Only thing that has changed in the way of evil, is the technology that allows us to be saturated in the awareness of it. It was always there and always bad. As a matter of fact, the world is probably a much better place to live than it was a few centuries ago. Democracy has brought civilation a long way from the dark ages to the present. I know the prophecy people hate hearing it, but it is a fact...there is nothing new under the sun.

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

Monilove, you hit on a very good point. Ecc 6:1 an evil under the sun and prevailent among men. Nothing new. Only thing that has changed in the way of evil, is the technology that allows us to be saturated in the awareness of it. It was always there and always bad. As a matter of fact, the world is probably a much better place to live than it was a few centuries ago. Democracy has brought civilation a long way from the dark ages to the present. I know the prophecy people hate hearing it, but it is a fact...there is nothing new under the sun.

all the best...
And you are wrong, KG. Tech wise it is a better place. But spiritually if you think it is better you are not looking very hard. It is worse. Far worse.

And you really need to knock off the nothing new under the sun as if we are saying anything is new, which we are not. Prophecy shows how the presence and relationships of certain things will be. Never said it will me something 'new.'

Again you are looking at things from a worldly view. Troubling, since tech ain't gonna get anyone to Heaven.

[kay-gee]

Man has made leaps and bounds socially. The very evil which plagues man has also driven him to "civilize" as it were. To adress those evils and curb them. That is why we have constitutions and laws and jurisprudence and such.
To illustrate my point, I want to ask a simple question. (a short answer will do)

If you were caught stealing a loaf of bread, where would you rather be?
a) State of Georgia, USA in 2008 b) England 1380 AD

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

Man has made leaps and bounds socially. The very evil which plagues man has also driven him to "civilize" as it were. To adress those evils and curb them. That is why we have constitutions and laws and jurisprudence and such.
To illustrate my point, I want to ask a simple question. (a short answer will do)

If you were caught stealing a loaf of bread, where would you rather be?
a) State of Georgia, USA in 2008 b) England 1380 AD

all the best...
Nice try.

There has always been problems. No one says differently.

But which matters more, relationship with God or society, granting both have their place as long as society is based on Godly thinking?

I hope you do realize that there has never been a time in history when more people are being killed in war and civil violence than today.

Why are you so determined to defend political correctness?

Do you support the death penalty and a good old spanking of bad kids?

[kay-gee]

I am not a defender of anything. I just happen to have a very realistic world-view. Government never was intended to be an ally of Christianity. Not in the beginning, not now! Christianity can thrive in any political scenario. It all has to do with the adherents will to "practice" the faith. That is why it is it's own kingdom.
But to refuse to admit that society as a whole hasn't become more civil over the centuries to the present, is just plain. well...ludicrous.
My country had an unfair advantage in this, in that it is only half the age of the USA. It was founded after the "enlightenment". We never had to go through wars, slavery, Witch-hunts, aborinigal genocide, McCarthyism, etc...etc...
We founded our country on a philosophy of charity and a general theory of "goodwill" towards men. It isn't perfect by any stretch, but it works!
On the issue of spanking and capital punishment...well I do part ways with my nation on these issues.
I believe we conservatives gotta stick together on these.

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

I am not a defender of anything. I just happen to have a very realistic world-view. Government never was intended to be an ally of Christianity. Not in the beginning, not now! Christianity can thrive in any political scenario. It all has to do with the adherents will to "practice" the faith. That is why it is it's own kingdom.
But to refuse to admit that society as a whole hasn't become more civil over the centuries to the present, is just plain. well...ludicrous.
My country had an unfair advantage in this, in that it is only half the age of the USA. It was founded after the "enlightenment". We never had to go through wars, slavery, Witch-hunts, aborinigal genocide, McCarthyism, etc...etc...
We founded our country on a philosophy of charity and a general theory of "goodwill" towards men. It isn't perfect by any stretch, but it works!
On the issue of spanking and capital punishment...well I do part ways with my nation on these issues.
I believe we conservatives gotta stick together on these.

all the best...
So there are limits. But our limits are very different.

The Big Question, KG. When in the history of the world was God and his Bible been banned or in the process of being banned from every government in the world?

Are you proud of Canada on that issue? Don't say it hasn't since the Canadian Hate Crime law most assuredly is doing that.

You are more liberal and soft on the Bible than you realize.

[kay-gee]

My anwer to "the big question" is the whole known world from the start of Christianity until about the 16th century, when the reformers began to enlighten the masses.
The bible is not banned in Canada yet, at least that I'm aware!
maybe we are a little forward thinking on hate laws, but then again we don't have the Ku Klux Klan either!
We just live by a motto of "people first". If that is somehow un-Christian in the CTZ view, I really don't know what else I can tell you.

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

My anwer to "the big question" is the whole known world from the start of Christianity until about the 16th century, when the reformers began to enlighten the masses.
The bible is not banned in Canada yet, at least that I'm aware!
maybe we are a little forward thinking on hate laws, but then again we don't have the Ku Klux Klan either!
We just live by a motto of "people first". If that is somehow un-Christian in the CTZ view, I really don't know what else I can tell you.

all the best...
Hate crime laws in Canada ban preaching against homosexuality, public oaths on Bibles and such. That is anti-Bible and anti-Christian.

You are not forward thinking on Hate Laws, you are anti-Christian when you put your 'social enlightment' over the Bible. You keep proving my point on where your priorities are.

The Bible is not a Social document. It is a spiritual document that should help for a society. Not rule it, but form its guiding principles.

Those principles have been abandoned or are being abandoned in the world. Canada and the EU are on the forefront of why the Rapture and Trib are going to occur.

[kay-gee]

I find this a very intriguing discussion. Many of my fellow country-men and indeed a few members of my own family consider me "dangerously right wing". I would be interested to know where the line in the sand exactly is. In the great discourse on love in Corinthians, Paul said...when I was a child I reasoned as a child...when I became a man, I gave up the child ways. Well at one time I think I was obnoxiously right wing. I was pretty much against everything. As I mature and see more and get more life experience under my belt, I think my world view has become more tempered. I share this planet with 5 billion other people and I am learning that you gotta kind of look out for each other a bit. Just makes for easier geting by. That's my story and I gotta stick to it!

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

I find this a very intriguing discussion. Many of my fellow country-men and indeed a few members of my own family consider me "dangerously right wing". I would be interested to know where the line in the sand exactly is.
I believe it is when one begins compromising key Biblical teachings for the sake of convenience and conformity.
In the great discourse on love in Corinthians, Paul said...when I was a child I reasoned as a child...when I became a man, I gave up the child ways. Well at one time I think I was obnoxiously right wing. I was pretty much against everything. As I mature and see more and get more life experience under my belt, I think my world view has become more tempered. I share this planet with 5 billion other people and I am learning that you gotta kind of look out for each other a bit. Just makes for easier geting by. That's my story and I gotta stick to it!
Yep, compromise and convenience. And with the prevailing excuse, love.

Remember, Paul was one of the hardest hitting, lay it on the line, no compromising truth people in the Bible.

Nope, I am not going to compromise with Communists, Atheists and Humanists just to get along at all costs.

Repecting freewill choice is one thing. But enabling, protecting error and letting such take control is very much another.

Really, Canada is extremely liberal to the point one can be to the right of the main but still be liberal.

[kay-gee]

Your point is well taken. But I still cannot see where investment in citizens through such means as health care, education etc... violates any part of the Holy Scriptures, old or new. It is plain wise politics. Not even Spiritual issue at all.

all the best...

[bobrobert]

This country has survived Bush thus far... as far from a christian as anyone can get.

Obama 08

Jihad candidate - talk about wild fiction.

Obama 08

End the years of hate an intolerance once and for all.

Obama 08

P.S. Can you guess I will be voting for Obama.

:-)

[kay-gee]

Gee, Bobrobert, if I were an american citizen, you would almost have me convinced!

all the best...

[InTheWind]

Free country, if obama doesn`t get in that is, everyone has the right to make mistakes and voting for him is a big one.

[CoreIssue]

As far as actually following the Bible Obama fails. Pleasing words and itching ears are not what the Bible supports.

Peace, peace, but there is no peace is what the Bible says fits the End Times.

So, who is crying peace all the time? Obama with his appeasement mentality that encourages our enemies to carry on, moving peace farther and farther away all the time.

So many do not realize there is evil that will never love us or allow peace as long they are held at bay. Simple reality.

[bobrobert]

Pardon.

Reality - Jesus did not teach reality.

Jesus taught us to love our enemies.

Reality teaches that the strongest survives and the bible teaches that love conquers all.

[Jessie]

love does'nt require anyone to have their brains fall out of their head.

Jesus taught much more than 1 corinthians 13.

you tell me why did he tell the diciples to carry a weapon?
to beware?

for looks?

from what you have said, if one protects themselves they are "hateful"
I highly doubt you abide by that yourself.

[kay-gee]

So are you saying then that commandment is handed down to all ages. Are you saying then, that I am actually guilty of a sin of omission by not owning a firearm? Hmmm you folks getting more interesting by the day. I think you trying to make hay with a one off verse spoken in confidence to disciples in a particular situation. The sermon on the mount was given in public and intended to be the standard for christians of all the ages.

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

So are you saying then that commandment is handed down to all ages.
You tell me where the right of self defense is ever negated in the Bible?
Are you saying then, that I am actually guilty of a sin of omission by not owning a firearm?
I am saying your stating the time for the ability of self defense has ended is naive and the Biblical right has never disappeared.
Hmmm you folks getting more interesting by the day. I think you trying to make hay with a one off verse spoken in confidence to disciples in a particular situation. The sermon on the mount was given in public and intended to be the standard for christians of all the ages.
And again you try to reject parts of the Bible that you don't like. Shopping Cart Theology yet again.

No, there were no Christians in the OT Times. No Church. So you error in that concept. It is the Church Age, not Ages. The Church Age will end and Israel will return.

And you didn't think this statement through. The command to the Apostles was given AFTER the Sermon on the Mount.

They work together, not one or the other.

[a.baker]

Yikes! I hope this link works; I copied it form the address bar; lol you can see my lack of computer knowledge :) It words straight out of Obamahs mouth talking against scripture of the bible.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=4FCNKwHRCQM&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//us.f837.mail.yahoo.com/dc/blank.html%3Fbn%3D1042.40%26.intl%3Dus&iurl=http%3A//i1.ytimg.com/vi/4FCNKwHRCQM/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIjXASeanKJSHeZoSqSSArf&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1

[CoreIssue]

Yep. If that is Christian... wow!

[InTheWind]

Yep great guy huh, I can`t understand why some can`t see the underlining truth about this man. :(

[CoreIssue]

Yep great guy huh, I can`t understand why some can`t see the underlining truth about this man. :(
I think the answer is apostasy.

[a.baker]

I have many words after my dad emailed me that video but I think its best if I just stay quiet for now. I almost have no words, kinda in shock really. I being such a weak youngin' have a hard time listening to this, someone who wants to run for leadership for a country.

[InTheWind]

I think it`s a sample of what`s to come with the AC, God will place a strong dilution on the world and people won`t be able to help themselves from believing the lies.

[bobrobert]

The jihad candidate - McCain. His answer to all problems - bomb the guilty country to submission.

Folks have not been reading the bible.

How many people in this country read their bible???

I have no idea what the answer to that question is, I can only say not enough people are reading their bible.

We cannot stop abortion, we cannot feed the hungry, we cannot house the homeless, our prison system is out of control, just to complain about a few things that are a direct result of folks refusing to read their bibles.

Sermon on the mount - should it be taken literally - no one wants to.

Life is so unfair.


What is next for this great country of ours???

[CoreIssue]

Yep. The Strong Delusion will allow people to see anti-christs like Obama to be seen as angels of light.

When the One Big AC is revealed it will be the Great Lie will live in full.