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wiselady
05-31-2008, 04:40 PM
Revelation 12
The Woman and the Dragon
1A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Now this is spiritual, he was spiritually taken to the throne, the prophecy fulfilled of his birth

their are people out their thinking satan has not come yet, this is NOT TRUE

the Son she gave birth to was Jesus

7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

this is about the birth Of Jesus Christ, and the war in heaven was because satan knew he was being defeated,

13When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.

he pursued the woman through Herod, killing all those children, he used Herod's body because he is a demon.

same with the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28, he used that persons body too..

CoreIssue
06-01-2008, 12:02 AM
Revelation 12
The Woman and the Dragon
1A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. 4His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. 5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Now this is spiritual, he was spiritually taken to the throne, the prophecy fulfilled of his birth
Let us give a more complete passage with some commentary.
[QUOTE]Revelation 12

The Woman and the Dragon

1A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.
Israel
2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.
Christ's birth.
3Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.
Satan as Mystery Babylon
4His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.
Ancient Pre-Adamic War in Heaven.
The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.
King Herod's efforts, in example.
5She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.
Past tense birth.
And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.
Resurrection.
6The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
Dual statement, the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD and Mid Trib and Great Trib protection of The Woman and 144,000, probably at Petra.
7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

Ancient War in Heaven and casting out of Satan, as described by Christ in Mattew past tense.
their are people out their thinking satan has not come yet, this is NOT TRUE
Depending on what you mean. Satan has been on the earth since Genesis 1:2.
the Son she gave birth to was Jesus
She is Israel, which encompasses a lot more than just Mary.
7And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

this is about the birth Of Jesus Christ, and the war in heaven was because satan knew he was being defeated,

Nope. Per Jude the War was long done before Christ was born and the Fallen Angels are bound in the Pit.
13When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child.

he pursued the woman through Herod, killing all those children, he used Herod's body because he is a demon.
Nope. This is Mid Trib when they flee in the 5th Seal.

You are mixing up references in Rev. 12. same with the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28, he used that persons body too..
Nope. Never said. The King of Tyre was compared to Satan to illustrate Satan's fall and the King's fate.

In fact the 6th Bowl states the evil spirit are in the AC, False Prophet and dragon, which is the statue abomination erected at Mid that is a image of the AC that Satan/The Dragon enters.

Has to be since Satan is a spirit and cannot come out of himself.