life in heaven

[cfi_land]

If we go to heaven, will we know of or children if they do not?

[CoreIssue]

If we go to heaven, will we know of or children if they do not?
Knowing and having it as a predominate memory are two different things.

Earthly issues will become unimportant in the main. We will be living new lives that will so overwhelm our earthly one to the point of why remember for what purpose?

Marriages will no longer exist, so why would other relationships? We will all be one family because ultimately all are related via Adam and Eve.

The new birth ends the realties of the old birth, spiritually. I think that birth and that family is the one that counts in eternity.

[cfi_land]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I live in the now not knowing the what. Why would I want to go to the what if I could never know the who. Lost I guess.
Thanks

[CoreIssue]

Thanks for the reply. I guess I live in the now not knowing the what. Why would I want to go to the what if I could never know the who. Lost I guess.
Thanks
I am making some assumptions on meanings here.

I never said no one would know who they were related to on the earth. I said it will not matter to that extent because we will be in a greater relationship.

And remember, just because one goes to Heaven it does not mean any of their close family will. Or the alternative for those who go to Hell.

[cfi_land]

that does not make any sense! so why would i want to go to heaven if none of my family would go. or vise verse a. so our life here is useless, what we know or do is lost.

[a.baker]

Scripture teaches us we are to love no other more than Him. If you know Him that is how it is. And because you know Him you almost love your family more than before since God is love. If you know love, you can give true love not just the feeling of love. Hope that makes sense.

Who knows when we go to heaven if we will see our family or not at all even if they go to the same place as you. Heaven is so wonderful; everyone there would be our family and God our King or Father. We won't separate "strangers " in the afterlife. All earthly things and terms are left at earth no matter where you go.

In hell the torment and toil of gnashing teeth speaks enough for itself. Worse than anything you could ever imagine that could ever be of this earth. The worst. You would be separated from God and be in the most horrible place. Your earth family there or not; no one would be enjoying anything not even each other. (Doubt your with your family there either). You would be in so much torment you wouldn't even think about them. You would be thinking about and crying for God to come save you; and well He won't.

So the best thing to do if your a Christian is to tell others of Jesus especially those you love. Also to remember they have freewill and will choose and our God is a very just God.

[a.baker]

You know if one doesn't know God than they can't possibly comprehend what it would be like to be separated from Him until it happens and of course is too late. Us Christians know Him and therefore find an urgency out of love for everyone else to know Him too; beyond our immediate family. And for this reason is why those who don't know Him don't care to. Well they don't understand what they are missing. God says people that don't know Him won't understand because the world never knew Him. When you become a Christian your eyes are quickly opened to this.

You gotta think that heaven and hell are not just two places. Remember they are not of this earth and to the far extreme of anything anyone could ever imagine.

[kay-gee]

I dont believe people are together in hell. You are quite alone there....Forever!

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

I dont believe people are together in hell. You are quite alone there....Forever!

all the best...
I agree.

[CTZonEdit]

that does not make any sense! so why would i want to go to heaven if none of my family would go. or vise verse a. so our life here is useless, what we know or do is lost.

What this says to me is that you love your family more than you love God at the moment.

Its difficult for us to believe that some of our loved ones will reject God, but the fact is that they will. Or they may be fooling you (and themselves) into thinking that they are godly when they are anything but.

The bible says we will have to make the choice for either God or family.

The sole reasoning behind getting into heaven should be that you love God for who He is and what He did for you. He saved you from Hell with love and grace and sacrifice. There is no other motivation for what God did than pure love for mankind. If you are factoring in any other motivations for being in or getting to Heaven then they are nothing but barriers to your relationship with God.

God sacrificed a relationship with his own Son. So He knows what it means for us to make that same type of sacrifice.

[Christian]

You know it's not nessesary to see something in such a scary way. God is everything, in your family, in every joy of life. I'm aware the Holy Spirit cannot reside in a dark heart but that's irrelevent to what i'm trying to say. I mean, some people accept it no problem, but some still struggle with the concept of "I have to love God more then my children?" Etc. But no, it's not like that. To love each other is to love God and vise versa. When you take everything into perspective, you'll love God more then anything by millions of miles and won't be able to help it. He's everything good. I'm just making this post to help eliminate the 'scare' ive met many people who were concerned.

[Jessie]

can you imagine all good being gone....
nothing but the bad left to grow?

each has a choice to make. they are given that free will to choose.

none wants any to be in hell. I would'nt want my worst enemy to be or go there.
but again, each has it own choice to choose.

choose wisely.

[Jessie]

and I agree fully with you KG!

this lonliness here is'nt even comparable.

[CoreIssue]

You know it's not nessesary to see something in such a scary way.
Sorry, but I have to say you are one of type that doesn't like reality. You want to filter it through your preferences.

God does not work that way.
God is everything, in your family, in every joy of life. I'm aware the Holy Spirit cannot reside in a dark heart but that's irrelevent to what i'm trying to say. I mean, some people accept it no problem, but some still struggle with the concept of "I have to love God more then my children?" Etc. But no, it's not like that. To love each other is to love God and vise versa.
Where is that taught? It isn't.

A Christian will love their family. And God is first over everyone else. Just read about Abraham, Isaac, God and the knife.
When you take everything into perspective,
Whose perspective?
you'll love God more then anything by millions of miles and won't be able to help it. He's everything good. I'm just making this post to help eliminate the 'scare' ive met many people who were concerned.
The topic of the discussion was being family being separated in Eternity.

What was pointed out is reality.

I will add the earthly family relationships do not exist in Eternity. I Heaven we will all be of the reborn family of God, so no members will fail to be there.

[cfi_land]

Let me get this straight. God would send great folks to hell for not admitting/believing he gave his life for us. But when he lets you go to heaven he/her brain washes you so you are happy and do not know anything in the past. It seems he could brain wash all to love him with out knowledge of the past. Why then would a god make anyone suffer/in hell? All this does not make any since. If all is how all you say, then you should all have nothing but belief. No cars, home, or wife etc... and no hate or condiment of others. You would be off crusading for you know heaven is all that matters.

[CTZonEdit]

Let me get this straight. God would send great folks to hell for not admitting/believing he gave his life for us.

God sends people to hell for breaking the law. That is the consequence of sin. The punishment is eternal seperation from God. We are all sinners. We all chose to sin and be sinful.

Now you can choose to take the gift of Gods sacrifice or not. Its your choice. But it saves you from hell if you do so.

But when he lets you go to heaven he/her brain washes you so you are happy and do not know anything in the past. It seems he could brain wash all to love him with out knowledge of the past.

No. Not brainwashing. The revelation of God and and the eternity that awaits will be so glorious that this life will cease to be relevant any longer. You will see it as God sees it not as a human any longer. Your mind will be renewed not removed.


Why then would a god make anyone suffer/in hell? All this does not make any since.

Because that is the choice they made. If someone doesnt want to be with God and wants to do everything their own way then God has made an allowance but with a consequence. When you commit eternal crimes you deserve an eternal punishment. What type of God would let this type of crime slide and ultimately be called just?


If all is how all you say, then you should all have nothing but belief. No cars, home, or wife etc... and no hate or condiment of others. You would be off crusading for you know heaven is all that matters.

Thats silly since we are still human with human feelings and wants and desires. Just because you become a Christian doesnt mean you lose your humanity here on earth. The bible answers all these questions if you take the time to look at it. Its a constant battle between mind and spirit and flesh. Its never easy.

[a.baker]

Well said CTZ.
And I must add that it is very peaceful knowing God and His Son and the place He has made for His children.

cfi_land,

O.k. look at it like this. We Christians think of God as our Father. So if one spits in His face or rejects Him; well......think of your father or mother; if some foreigner came along and spit in his face and bruised him inside out, how would you feel, wouldn't you want justice to be served? That foreigner isn't family, it was offered and they rejected good person or not. Its a family not just a religion. God is love and thats where love came from; think about that.

cfi_land we all have family whom is very dear to us here and now and we strive for them to all know Him too because we love so much. But we all have the reality we don't have any control over anyone and what choices they make. You might think you do say with your children as they grow but you really don't. If they grow and decide to use drugs, well if you were a good parent who did your job than you can't blame yourself for their choice. Can't beat yourself up over it. You did your part as a parent. You can always influence but thats about it. It is peaceful knowing who is in control.

Jesus says His yoke is easy and His burden is light. Think about that for a minute. Knowing Jesus is wonderful beyond comparison of anything of the earth. You wouldn't believe how He has changed me. Tell you what, if you let me tell you my story maybe you would see how He done it and without Him I was a lost cause. Its a glorious thing even while we dwell here on earth. Have you ever given Him a chance? I enjoy Him every day; He lives in my heart and conscience and proves to be alive daily. Imagine having a ruler or king that actually listens to us! And God is like that and He answers my prayers.

Please don't write it off; seriously think about what everyone here is saying.

[CoreIssue]

cfi_land, who do you want for a neighbor in your vision of what Heaven should be; Lenin, Stalin, Bin Laden, Hitler, Manson, a sadist, thief, etc? Who would you turn to when the gangs came and began pushing you around? What would you do with such?

What you want would just recreate this earth in Heaven. After all, they all have earthly families as well.

No soldiers, police or such needed in the family of God in Heaven. Everyone is there by freewill and would have it no other way.

Not everyone has ideal parents or children. Your are very narrow visioned.

[cfi_land]

I would like to thank you all for replying to my questions. I appreciate it. I hope all goes well for you folk.

[John Beckett]

CTZ On Edit SAID: The sole reasoning behind getting into heaven should be that you love God for who He is and what He did for you. He saved you from Hell with love and grace and sacrifice. There is no other motivation for what God did than pure love for mankind. If you are factoring in any other motivations for being in or getting to Heaven then they are nothing but barriers to your relationship with God.

Amen, Brother! To me, it isn't even about "getting into
Heaven", but rather it's about being with my Holy Lord
& Savior for the rest of eternity!!!!!

OH, HOW i LOVE AND ADORE HIM!!! :sob: :sob:



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