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roman8
05-25-2008, 12:33 PM
How is it we fall away so easily from the Lord? How can we after knowing the Lord and his mercy willfully choose to disobey him. He is a merciful God. His Thoughts are not our thoughts his ways are not our ways ( Thankyou Lord) How is that the Lord can take something so dispicable and turn it into something for our good?
I have learned that I can not stand in my own rightousness, I have none, I need the Lord so badly and he is willing to take me back , he stands on the road and waits with open arms for my return., truly Amazing Grace, So underserved , I do not derserve his mercy, but he gives it to me .
He gives it to me , someone so stained and dirty , yet he wants to wash me clean. I can not comprehend why he loves me , I am so low , I am lower than low . I can not justify myself , only the Lord can justify me . I need to throw myself at his feet and beg for his forgiveness .
I was watching a little girl playing yesterday and I began to cry , I just wanted to be that little girl again , that child not really knowing sin , and I prayed Lord dont let her know.
Please continue to keep me in your prayers . :hug:
InTheWind
05-25-2008, 01:40 PM
You have been washed clean by His blood or you wouldn`t be worrying about it and you`ve apparently repented.
Except what He did and move on, will be praying for you. :hug::pray:
CoreIssue
05-25-2008, 02:03 PM
ITW is right.
But remember your flesh is still sinful and powerful. Your mind is a combination of both your spirit and your flesh. So you will live with inner wars and struggles the rest of your life. Win some and loose some.
Not easy, we all face it and the only difference between us those who admit it and those who do not.
Jessie
05-25-2008, 04:46 PM
oh you said that so beautifully!
one thing I was told when I first started here, stop beating yourself up over it.
our Lord sure is good!
InTheWind
05-25-2008, 05:01 PM
ITW is right.
But remember your flesh is still sinful and powerful. Your mind is a combination of both your spirit and your flesh. So you will live with inner wars and struggles the rest of your life. Win some and loose some.
Not easy, we all face it and the only difference between us those who admit it and those who do not.
Right on, it`s a constant battle but most of the time we are beating ourselves up while God already forgot about it.
roman8
05-26-2008, 09:16 AM
I am now questioning wether or not I am really saved.
I dont understand myself or what has happened to me , How can a person who is saved do such a thing , I dont want to say what I did , but I dont think it takes to much to figure it out. And how is it I want to do it again.
If I am really saved shouldnt my desire be to please the Lord only, and not myself.
I go from saying never never again to just one more time , I have not, but the desire is so strong I am scared of myself.
I didnt do anything like this when I wasnt a believer and if you had told me I would do this even 3 weeks ago I would not have believed it.
If I am saved why wont the Lord just take me out , i keep praying for him to that . I am afraid my heart will become hard towards the Lord , I am feeling desperate again . I am sorry to burden all of you with this , but I need help .
CoreIssue
05-26-2008, 12:34 PM
I am now questioning wether or not I am really saved.
I dont understand myself or what has happened to me , How can a person who is saved do such a thing , I dont want to say what I did , but I dont think it takes to much to figure it out. And how is it I want to do it again.
If I am really saved shouldnt my desire be to please the Lord only, and not myself.
I go from saying never never again to just one more time , I have not, but the desire is so strong I am scared of myself.
I didnt do anything like this when I wasnt a believer and if you had told me I would do this even 3 weeks ago I would not have believed it.
If I am saved why wont the Lord just take me out , i keep praying for him to that . I am afraid my heart will become hard towards the Lord , I am feeling desperate again . I am sorry to burden all of you with this , but I need help .
Strange how the flesh fights back when it looses the spirit part of the mind. Very strong opponent.
Think you are the only one to have done things they cannot understand the motive? Think again.
Contrary to what many think, being Christian is not an instant access to happiness in life. It actually increases the conflicts.
Yes, inner realities become much more peaceful over time, not instantly. But worldly realities? The divisions and conflicts become greater, not less.
We find out just how bad off we are. That hurts.
roman8
05-26-2008, 04:30 PM
I just came back from my home church and had a chat with my pastor. I told him everything that has happened, I felt I needed more people to be accountable to.
Yes Core ,Very strong opponent indeed, enlisting all the help I can get, cant do this on my own.
thanks everyone
InTheWind
05-26-2008, 07:05 PM
Hang in there you`ll pull through it in no time, trust God He knows what ya need even if you don`t. Time heals, still praying with ya. :pray:
kay-gee
05-26-2008, 11:19 PM
roman8...e-mail me anytime!
all the best...
Jessie
05-27-2008, 02:26 AM
I am now questioning wether or not I am really saved.
I dont understand myself or what has happened to me , How can a person who is saved do such a thing , I dont want to say what I did , but I dont think it takes to much to figure it out. And how is it I want to do it again.
If I am really saved shouldnt my desire be to please the Lord only, and not myself.
I go from saying never never again to just one more time , I have not, but the desire is so strong I am scared of myself.
I didnt do anything like this when I wasnt a believer and if you had told me I would do this even 3 weeks ago I would not have believed it.
If I am saved why wont the Lord just take me out , i keep praying for him to that . I am afraid my heart will become hard towards the Lord , I am feeling desperate again . I am sorry to burden all of you with this , but I need help .
Strange how the flesh fights back when it looses the spirit part of the mind. Very strong opponent.
Think you are the only one to have done things they cannot understand the motive? Think again.
Contrary to what many think, being Christian is not an instant access to happiness in life. It actually increases the conflicts.
Yes, inner realities become much more peaceful over time, not instantly. But worldly realities? The divisions and conflicts become greater, not less.
We find out just how bad off we are. That hurts.
I absolutly agree!
a.baker
05-27-2008, 02:23 PM
You know when it comes to sin sometimes I question if it is a sin or not. Not with what you were going through because I don't know the details but something I did. I have no idea if it is or not and I wonder and it bothers me. Does it bother me because of Satan playing tricks in my head or does it bother because of the HS trying to get through to me?
This is not about me but about you Roman8. I say this example as to say how Satan will use our sins to keep throwing them in our face and taunting us Christians even after we have been forgiven. The world will say look at this bad thing this person did, when we can find proof in scripture where God says it is not a bad thing but an accident for example.
Don't let Satan tell you you were not saved! Its only between you and God but I full heartedly believe you are, just like core said if you weren't than you wouldn't feel this guilt. But yet like I said this guilt, Satan will use to taunt us even after Gods forgiveness and our repentance is said and done. You notice how no matter what we do to say sorry to a neighbor they still constantly bring it up even when we know it was an accident or God had forgiven us? God will release the burden and torment but Satan hangs on to it. Separate what is what with whats happened here on earth and than between you and God and you will see where Satan may be lying to you.
Scripture is most helpful too, I can find some on this very subject if you would like. I am sure you know where to find it too.... hugs and prayers going out to you!
a.baker
05-27-2008, 04:01 PM
Let the fear of God keep you close and safe under His wing :)
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