The broken heart

[InTheWind]

If non Christains only new how much they break the hearts of those around them and they don`t even realize it or care.
It`s got so bad they don`t, or can`t even understand how a persons heart can be broken by how they act. :swoon:

[CoreIssue]

Caring for others is shallow in this world. I believe people, in the majority, only try to help others, in worldly terms, to be self justifying and trying to save themselves by saving others.

Might be wrong, but I believe it does come from a selfish motivation.

[Jessie]

I think that is correct.

[InTheWind]

Selfishness, greed, pride are all the reasons they act like they do, my point is that they can`t understand or realize that someones feelings are hurt by what they say or do.
Example, my cousin and I haven`t talked for a while , not long ago his wife called me and chewed me out because of what someone said i had said years ago. After a long talk she admitted that she shouldn't`t of believed the person that lied and i said ya think !!!!!!
The fact is she knows i`m a Christian and should of realized that i couldn`t say what she thought i said. See this is what i`m getting at, they can`t even comprehend what being a Christian is. They think we think the same way and would do things like they do but we don`t of course. My MIL said something to my cousin after this all happened and his response was " What ever "
He could care less about my feelings and won`t put any effort into resolving things.
This was just an example to make my point, hope ya can understand what i`m saying.
A lot of times when i`ve been deep in depression and really hurt the first thought that comes to mind is how Jesus must of felt. He must of been thinking how can these people treat me like this when i`ve healed them, fed them, comforted them, and loved them with all His heart yet they judged and crucified Him.

[a.baker]

Yeah I think Jesus was hurt and shows us in scripture some of those times for example as to say "fine you don't believe or appreciate? Than fine just have it, just take it." I think he did that for others that were watching not for the ones that were doubting Him so necessarily.

I know how you feel ITW. Seeing the ones around you, you love, waisting away in their habits of addiction. People at work wanting to gossip and I told them today all this talk is making me tired and I just want things to go back the way they were so we can work in peace. But some went right on with the gossip. To see others so upset and angry and they will hear of Jesus but never listen and do. They keep on hurting themselves.

We see what God see's and I think thats why we ask "Is it time yet"? Others do help only for selfish benefit. Huh Just on the radio on the way home the d.j. lady said " If you ever have a moment where you think outside of yourself; share it with us on the radio so we can let everyone know". People wanting to boast because they are not selfish for a minute? That made me angry hearing of that but what can I do. I changed the radio station is what I did.

And why does everyone just want to be a good person and say thats that?! That drives me crazy! Theres so much more to life than just being a good person, well theres life, with the Lord! People are so accepting and no it's not o.k.!!! Lets be blunt and get to the point and quit dancing around the Truth, but they won't hear and yes they tell us to be quiet while they listen to everything else.

No ITW they just don't get it, they cannot comprehend and yes it breaks our hearts when they keep pushing and pushing Jesus away.

And whats up with these people all wanting stuff and caring more about money and things than other people?! How can someone drive to the mall and spend ridiculous amount of money on clothes they don't need while their family member is having difficulties making ends meet? Why do so many people want to posses things? They can't take it with them.

I am so joyous that the Lord supplies us with only the things we need. I am joyous I have a place to call home waiting for me. I am also so joyous to know I am not the only one who see's these things.

And another thing that breaks my heart is that no understands why I have changed or really even cares. They just think "Oh you are doing that now, well great." They have no regards for any of it. I am not trying to point a blame finger, I am just frustrated that no one wants to hear my testimony except for other Christians, no matter how sensitive I try to be to there wants or expectations.

I also imagine how must God feel. I think this is why we cannot even as Christians really comprehend how much God loves us. When I think of it it's mind blowing and speechless. From time to time I know I hurt Him as well and that makes me angry with myself. How could I not speak up and not tell this person about Jesus because I am afraid of confrontation or losing my job. That is something I shamefully admit that I have failed to do from time to time. I am held responsible if I don't speak up. I know God will be just with me as well. Only with His Son Jesus can we be saved.

I know what you mean about family not caring about you. I have made so many attempts to talk to my brother and visit him and he doesn't seem to care too much. I keep telling my grandma lets get together for dinner at my house or yours soon and she always makes excuses for later and not now. My dad won't help me or listen at times when I think its very important. Well I'm gonna do those things for my daughter!!! I try to not think of it but it makes me so sad he holds things higher than his own daughter. After all I try to get close with my mother I still think she doesn't see me for who I am and blames me for a lot of things that are beyond my control and thinks I am still unknowing. I feel like I am always having to defend. What for? She doesn't listen anyways, why do I bother. My sister, well shes just always too busy and everything has to involve money. She doesn't care too much to get to know me either. And my in laws are in all different directions as well. I wrote my Mother in law a letter from my heart for Mothers Day and like always, I am sure she just said "thats nice" and tossed it on the table to be buried under junk. My brother in law and his family always make excuses why they won't come over. They care more about talking about themselves than caring too much about what we have to share.

There is only a small few people I feel close to and they (besides my husband and daughter) are not in my family. I try but its up to them to receive and embrace or disregard and reject. You know what? Others won't even give me a chance to try.

[kay-gee]

That is really sad. I still say that the most important thing is to live the life. An act of Christian kindness goes farther than a thousand words.

all the best...

[InTheWind]

That is really sad. I still say that the most important thing is to live the life. An act of Christian kindness goes farther than a thousand words.

all the best...

Yes it is sad, and I know exactly
what you are going through a.baker. :hug:
KayGee i`ll agree that we should continue to do and say nice things to those that reject us and I think it really bothers them inside. But there is a time we have to dust off our shoes and move on, I have done that with most of my selfish family members and I feel much better.
For instance the person that told my cousins wife a lie, he has told many lies over the years. But I call him to see how he is doing every once in a while anyway. There is a person that will never get it, some people just arn`t running on all eight.

[kay-gee]

pretty much sums it up

all the best...

[a.baker]

ITW we should dust off our boots and move on. But the hard thing for me is that Satan knows my heart well too and I think sometimes he tries to play with it and use it against me. I think thats why Jesus said for us to try and if they won't listen, to than move on. Thank you for listening!!! :)

[kay-gee]

You cannot totally diss your family members, as you are tied to them by blood. I'm speaking of your immediate family, not distant relatives. We do have a certain social responsibility to our own. God created the family unit, intentionally, and for a reason. Your family should be your closest allies on this earth, and in conjunction with earthly matters. However... in the spiritual realm, If you have been born again, then the Body of Christ becomes your family. We are to work for the good of the household of faith. That is why I am such a stickler about the Church. It is not about music and religious feelings. It is a family reunion that takes place weekly.
All that is just to say this. You can not expect that everyone in your circle of influence is going to obey the gospel of Christ. It simply isn't going to happen. It is not for you to feel guilty about either. Everyone on this planet is a free will agent and must draw their own conclusions in matters of the spirit. Christ extends the invitation to all, as a fountain, to come and drink freely. Those that turn down His invitation will never partake of His promises or blessings. Sad but a true fact. We cannot not let that bog us down. We have been given a job to do. We sow seeds. That's it.That's all. We can do that by demonstrating to others than Christ lives in us, by our good works and by our joy! So I say enjoy your family and friends while you can for the the days are short. In eternity, they may not be there.

all the best..

[InTheWind]

ITW we should dust off our boots and move on. But the hard thing for me is that Satan knows my heart well too and I think sometimes he tries to play with it and use it against me. I think thats why Jesus said for us to try and if they won't listen, to than move on. Thank you for listening!!! :)

That`s what I have done, as a Christian I forgive them and would welcome them but until they change there is nothing more I can do.
KayGee, blood is thicker than water is a neat saying but it doesn`t always work that way sadly to say. My dad devoiced us kids when he devoiced our mother 30 years ago, he is selfish and is a liar and has put no effort into knowing us again. There is no point in me torturing myself over him the rest of my life, I had to let go and move on. It would be nice if we lived in a fantasy world where everything is alright like the WOF`ers believe, oh wait they are happy they`er rich from fleecing the poor.

[a.baker]

I see what your saying Kaygee but Jesus did say "My brothers sisters and mother are the ones that know my Father". Something like that. But this job we have extends beyond our blood family. Jesus wants us to take the message to those that will listen. Try with all but put more effort with those that want to know Him. Your right, time is short. There is a sense of urgency for us all to speak up and not be quiet. But to defend my personal position like I've said, some won't even let me try. Yup try and try again but some things are beyond our control so we must just let it go and give it to God.

ITW I have never been there with one of parents but I have so many friends who are and so I have an idea of what you have been through with hashing this out throughout your life growing up and throughout adulthood. It is so nice to have the peace in knowing that if we just give it to God He will handle it His way which is always perfect. This is why I think Jesus was referred to as the Prince of peace but for those that won't accept Him He brings a sword. I love how Gods word is most high in every situation.

[Jessie]

gosh, I sure can identify with you all.

I dont know what else to add.

I know the pain all too well.

[InTheWind]

Thanks all for the great repkies, the main point is how non-Christian act the way they do as if it is normal. And how they can`t understand how we can`t be like them, they are lost and hopefully they will listen someday too someone. :nod: :hug: