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Peace be still
04-06-2008, 11:46 AM
I once watched a movie called Jesus camp. In it the guy on the radio
ask the woman who ran the camp “Why are you brainwashing these kids
into believing in Jesus. Shouldn’t you wait until they are old enough
to decide for them selves and not mention anything about Jesus or
religion to them. He continued- you are making them believe in Jesus
while they are too young to know any better. It is not fair to the
kids, because you are not allowing them to make their own choices.” My
response to this guy would have been “If this woman is leading them to
Christ than what difference does it make in the way they got saved.
That would be like saying to someone that is on a runaway train that is
headed toward a bridge that is out, Are you sure you want me to save
you and take you off this train, it has to be your choice. Of course to
stay on the train would mean certain death. Do you think the people on
the train would say to me, “ let me think about it first”. Or if you
saw a young boy playing on a busy freeway, would you say to yourself, I
think I will wait until he is old enough to decide for himself whether
he wants to get off the freeway or not. The heathen would say {That is
not the same thing }. I would say, what if that child grows up and
becomes a criminal and gets into drugs and alcohol and then dies
without Jesus when you had the chance to lead him down the path of
righteousness as a youth from the beginning. I think the unsaved say
these things Like “let them decide for themselves” because they are
inspired by Satan to say what he wants them to say. The devil knows
that if he can keep them from hearing about Jesus as youths, then maybe
they will have time to turn to a life of sin and be one of his instead
of God’s. I think we should teach our children about what Jesus did
for us as soon as they or old enough to comprehend! Believe it or not
but some people would read this letter and say “you monster’ you are
going to scar these children for life if you tell them of Jesus’ death
when they are too young. I would say they don’t know what they are
talking about. When the Gospel becomes offensive to anyone for any
reason, they are working against God and against His Word. Children are
very impressionable when they are young, that is the best time to tell
them the truth of the gospel because they will accept it more easily
then when they become older. I really would like to know if anybody
here feels the same way I do about this. Lee

CoreIssue
04-06-2008, 12:15 PM
So many either do not know or do not care about the distinction between Christianity, cults and other religions.

Christians do not force others to believe, others do. Christians do not threaten or punish those who want to walk away, others do.

roman8
04-06-2008, 02:28 PM
I watched that movie recently ( Jesus Camp) , with out saying to much it focused on a female pentacostal pastor and her summer camp . Quite frankly the non believing DJ ( IMO) was justified to a certain extent in his veiws. I found the movie disturbing.

Peace be still
04-06-2008, 04:46 PM
I am behind the female Pentecostal pastor 100%. Moses was taught by his Jewish mother about God, that is why he left and went to live with his own people. Are you saying that what Moses mother did by teaching him about God from a baby was wrong because she did not let him grow up and decide for himself.

InTheWind
04-06-2008, 04:49 PM
Satan drives, Jesus leads. :nod:

Ramy
04-06-2008, 05:44 PM
He should say to the devil not to mention any thing about sin to them and that means not to let them watch violance in T.V or even in the Cartoon for instance, Can he make such a bargin with devil ?
and if he can then we should worship him !
But Jesus said let kids come to me and don't prevent them because for those kids I gave the heavens.

CoreIssue
04-06-2008, 05:52 PM
I am behind the female Pentecostal pastor 100%. Moses was taught by his Jewish mother about God, that is why he left and went to live with his own people. Are you saying that what Moses mother did by teaching him about God from a baby was wrong because she did not let him grow up and decide for himself.
Not equivalent to compare a mother with a pastor. A mother is to teach but a woman is not to be a pastor to begin with.

I also have to say many branches of Pentecostalism do indoctrinate and are not Biblically sound on a number of issues.

Not saying not Christian, just talking about soundness of doctrine and how I have seen them do harm to many of their members. And will say other denominations also have the issue, unfortunately, as in a Lutheran that got banned who called anyone who didn't accept his doctrines as enemies of Christ and him.

CoreIssue
04-06-2008, 05:56 PM
He should say to the devil not to mention any thing about sin to them and that means not to let them watch violance in T.V or even in the Cartoon for instance, Can he make such a bargin with devil ?
No. He cannot make such a bargain. We are not to even talk to demons or Satan except where casting them out under the right circumstances.
and if he can then we should worship him !
Leads to a dangerous conclusion, doesn't it?
But Jesus said let kids come to me and don't prevent them because for those kids I gave the heavens.
Yep. And a problem with a number of denominations is that they teach from their doctrines, sacraments and such instead of the Bible. That is called Doctrinism.

roman8
04-08-2008, 12:08 AM
I am behind the female Pentecostal pastor 100%. Moses was taught by his Jewish mother about God, that is why he left and went to live with his own people. Are you saying that what Moses mother did by teaching him about God from a baby was wrong because she did not let him grow up and decide for himself.

Did not intend to offend, but IMO there was alot more going on in that camp than just the Gospel being preached.

Where did I say Moses mother was wrong? :scratch:

kay-gee
04-08-2008, 11:24 AM
Peace Be Still...Just wondering...Is your Bible missing some pages? see First Timothy 2:12

all the best...

roman8
04-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Kay-gee its not that these people are not sincere christians its just that what was happening goes against the rules set out in the bible . What I mean is there was 100 or so very young children all speaking in tongues and appeared as though they were in some kind of trance . Paul in 1 Cor :14 :23 speaks about this very thing , and sadly it did just that, made it look as though they had all lost there minds.
There were other things that happened . These children were from about 8 years old and up . An outsider or unbeliever looking on would be unsettled about what was happening. I would suggest that others watch this movie . Siskel and Roppert ( not sure about there names) but you know who I am taking about , gave it two thumbs up :(. This I pray, is not the way the world will view Believers.

kay-gee
04-09-2008, 11:35 PM
Hi roman8...I'm flying to Canada on Saturday. Is this a movie playing in theatres? Perhaps I can check it out.

all the best...

roman8
04-10-2008, 09:43 AM
Its in the video stores , you can rent it. Its an American movie, you should be able to get it any where.

Coming to see your family Kaygee or is it because of taxes?:(

kay-gee
04-10-2008, 10:53 AM
A little of both roman8...I have virtually no income to report, but I am gonna file anyway, just to keep cool with the Feds. I'll be up prolly a couple weeks at any rate.

funny thing...there are no video rentals here. most movies are the homemade versions you buy from a guy in front of the market...LOL

all the best...