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John Beckett
04-03-2008, 02:15 PM
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WASHINGTON (BP)--Two television ministries still are refusing to comply fully with a U.S. Senate committee's probe into their financial records.

Televangelists Kenneth Copeland and Creflo Dollar failed to provide the requested information by the March 31 deadline, according to a written release from Sen. Charles Grassley, R.-Iowa, the minority leader on the Finance Committee. Sen. Max Baucus, D.-Mont., the committee's chairman, and Grassley had asked Copeland and Dollar, plus fellow televangelist Eddie Long, to submit the documentation they are seeking by the end of March.

Long and three other televangelists have either complied, have begun doing so or have committed to fulfill the request, the written release from Grassley said. According to the release:

-- Long will provide information April 15, his ministry reported.

-- Randy and Paula White have shipped their initial set of answers, a lawyer said March 28.

-- Benny Hinn submitted a second collection of documents March 28.

-- Joyce Meyer has fulfilled the request.

Grassley said he would continue his dialogue with the ministries of Copeland and Dollar.

Copeland said his ministry provided 23 pages of answers to questions and 291 pages of supporting material in response to Grassley's initial request in November, but Baucus and Grassley said March 12 the information was "incomplete." Dollar has not produced any of the material requested by the senators.

"It's good to see the majority of the ministries offering information," Grassley said in the March 31 release. "They receive generous tax breaks as non-profit organizations. In general, the federal Treasury forgoes billions of tax dollars a year to tax-exempt groups. The ministries' sharing of material with the Senate committee in charge of tax policy shows an interest in accountability for their special tax status."

All the televangelists targeted by the committee are identified with the "word of faith" movement, Copeland said on his ministry's website, adding that the inquiry "raises significant concerns" as to whether religious beliefs are being targeted. "Word of faith" teaching often consists of a so-called "prosperity gospel" that promises physical and financial blessings for believers in Christ. Accusations of contributions being used to support lavish lifestyles have been leveled against at least some of the televangelists.

Grassley initially requested information from the six ministries in a Nov. 5 letter. He asked them to provide their personal and ministry related financial records, including credit card statements, expenses for secondary residences used by the televangelists, gifts given by the ministries and lists of private automobiles. Grassley's questions were based on accounts from watchdog organizations and whistleblowers, as well as investigative news reports, the senator said.

Baucus and Grassley sent a joint letter to Copeland, Dollar and Long -– the three who had yet to say they would comply -- March 11, long after Grassley's original Dec. 6 deadline had passed. Baucus and Grassley expressed hope at that time the committee would receive the documents "without resorting to compulsory process," an apparent reference to the possibility of subpoenas.

The Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability (ECFA) welcomed the increased cooperation by the televangelists.

"Financial transparency is the cornerstone of financial integrity for nonprofits," ECFA President Ken Behr said in a written statement. While he appreciates the religious freedom concerns expressed by some, Behr said he believes ministries that comply with current regulations "actually improve donor confidence in our religious charities."

None of the six ministries is a member of the ECFA.

In early December the National Religious Broadcasters expressed concern about Grassley's investigation, even though none of the ministries belongs to NRB. NRB President Frank Wright said in a letter to Grassley he was worried about the "broader implications," saying the senator's letter "goes far beyond a mere request for financial records necessary to scrutinize the charitable nature of [an] organization's operations."

The names of the televangelists and their ministries, plus the locations of their headquarters, are: Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Copeland Ministries, Newark Texas; Creflo Dollar, World Changers Church International, College Park, Ga.; Eddie Long, New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, Lithonia, Ga.; Joyce Meyer, Joyce Meyer Ministries, Fenton, Mo.; Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn Ministries, Grapevine, Texas, and Randy and Paula White, Without Walls International Church and Paula White Ministries, Tampa, Fla.

The Whites announced in August they are divorcing.


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CoreIssue
04-04-2008, 12:55 AM
Ya wonder if they are hiding anything? :D

InTheWind
04-04-2008, 09:31 AM
Ya wonder if they are hiding anything? :D

Wonder heck, those people are scary. :(

Jessie
04-04-2008, 02:21 PM
I agree ITW

gipsy
07-18-2008, 06:10 PM
heavy stuff mate :scratch:

Chrystalwuzhere
07-18-2008, 10:15 PM
The more they protest, the more convinced I am that they are hiding something.

No church should be that opaque. Every church should be transparent. If not, I get leary.

a.baker
07-19-2008, 10:19 AM
Most that are guilty of something try to divert the attention of the blame finger on someone else before they are looked at or questioned. A guilty conscience usually shows through before the thing is even out.

monilove
07-21-2008, 12:10 PM
I just heard Kenneth Copeland state they had fully complied and had no problems sharing their financial info because they had nothing to hide while flipping thru channels on the satellite. Dont ask why I stopped but that was the statement out of his mouth:grr:. Creflo has said he will not provide the info because it would be an infringement upon their rights as a church blah blah blah. Then proceeded to teach it was ridiculous that Jesus was poor. So this little inquiry into their finances hasnt rang a bell for him still.To be honest I am just so tired of hearing these people's doctrines and seeing their faces on every freakin' channel I could puke:sob:. Their teachings are insulting to my Savior Jesus Christ and sacreligious. If I hear that we can buy God one more time.......If I see people who have no clue that how detrimental these teachings are jumping up and down... I can no longer watch "christian" tv. I dont bother. I am so glad God opened my eyes. I have never seen the appeal of Bishop Long. Never been able to watch him for more than five secs with those tank tops he wears....LOL...I've found two teachers that "study" and push you to study "your" Bible and find things for yourself.

CoreIssue
07-21-2008, 02:52 PM
What a blight!

Dollar has a gated mansion in my county. He is never seen taking part in anything local.

Ironically we are are probably the most conservative county in the metro area.

Jessie
07-23-2008, 04:59 PM
these folks are clouds with no rain.

I can across that in the OT and NT the other night and thought that sure sums them up.

they promise liberation, and sink folks into deeper bondage.

whose condemnation is just. black holes...

John Beckett
07-27-2008, 12:51 PM
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HEADLINE: Televangelist's family prospers from ministry


Texas religious empire under scrutiny over its tangle of kinship

NEWARK, Texas - Here in the gentle hills of north Texas, televangelist Kenneth Copeland has built a religious empire teaching that God wants his followers to prosper.

Over the years, a circle of Copeland's relatives and friends have done just that, The Associated Press has found. They include the brother-in-law with a lucrative deal to broker Copeland's television time, the son who acquired church-owned land for his ranching business and saw it more than quadruple in value, and board members who together have been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for speaking at church events.

Church officials say no one improperly benefits through ties to Copeland's vast evangelical ministry, which claims more than 600,000 subscribers in 134 countries to its flagship "Believer's Voice of Victory" magazine. The board of directors signs off on important matters, they say. Yet church bylaws give Copeland veto power over board decisions.

While Copeland insists that his ministry complies with the law, independent tax experts who reviewed information obtained by the AP through interviews, church documents and public records have their doubts. The web of companies and non-profits tied to the televangelist calls the ministry's integrity into question, they say.

"There are far too many relatives here," said Frances Hill, a University of Miami law professor who specializes in nonprofit tax law. "There's too much money sloshing around and too much of it sloshing around with people with overlapping affiliations and allegiances by either blood or friendship or just ties over the years. There are red flags all over these relationships."

Neither Kenneth Copeland nor John Copeland, Kenneth's son and the ministry's executive director, responded to interview requests.

Prosperity gospel

Kenneth Copeland, 71, is a pioneer of the prosperity gospel, which teaches that believers are destined to flourish spiritually, physically and financially — and share the wealth with others.

His ministry's 1,500-acre campus outside Fort Worth is testament to his success. It includes a church, private airstrip, a hangar for the ministry's aircraft and a $6 million, church-owned mansion.

Already a well-known figure, Copeland has come under greater scrutiny in recent months. He is one target of a Senate Finance Committee investigation into allegations of questionable spending and lax financial accountability at six large televangelist organizations that preach health-and-wealth theology.

All have denied wrongdoing, but Copeland has fought back the hardest, refusing to answer most questions from the inquiry's architect, Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa.

The Senate committee didn't set out to determine whether Copeland or the others broke the law, although it could provide information to the Internal Revenue Service if something seems flagrantly wrong, a committee aide said. The main goal, Grassley has said, is to figure out whether existing tax laws governing churches are adequate, which could carry sweeping implications for all religious organizations.

The committee could subpoena Copeland if he remains uncooperative. Neither he nor John Copeland, his son and the ministry's chief executive officer, responded to interview requests.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25865017

InTheWind
07-27-2008, 02:01 PM
That guy is really depressing, why do they preach wealth, it won`t do ya a bit of good and you can`t take it with you.
Simple fleecing of sheep. :(

CoreIssue
07-27-2008, 06:57 PM
Yep. Con man who is hyper greedy. Give but don't expect him to give.

Jessie
07-27-2008, 08:56 PM
I sure wish they'd go right outta business and have to get a real job.

they'd take your last dollar promising nonsense, and not bat a eye.

nasty people.