Struggling

[roman8]

I am going to lay a few things out that I am struggling with , in the hopes of getting some help here.

I have struggled with the issue of eternal Hell before and thought that I had come to a kind of acceptance of it but I guess not.
Its really playing on my mind as I think about my unsaved family members and friends and just the world in general .
The problem is not that I dont believe in hell , the problem is that I do and I feel powerless to save my family . It doesnt matter what I say to them they just dont want to listen . My parents think I have lost my mind and others give me a condesending answer like ( if it helps you get through life) . So in the end I find myself pointing the finger at God , (like I have any power) accusing him of being unfair and unjust . I know my thoughts are wrong and somehow I have twisted things to come to this conclusion .

But when I read things like Romans 9 v18-23 I am angry and sad and afraid

Maybe its because I am realizing for the first time I really am powerless to do anything .

How on earth do you come to peace with this ?


Something happened just now as I am finishing up this post , I got my websters dictionary out to check my spelling , I opened it and the first word i layed my eyes on was "Prayer"

[Jessie]

I am going to lay a few things out that I am struggling with , in the hopes of getting some help here.

I have struggled with the issue of eternal Hell before and thought that I had come to a kind of acceptance of it but I guess not.
Its really playing on my mind as I think about my unsaved family members and friends and just the world in general .
The problem is not that I dont believe in hell , the problem is that I do and I feel powerless to save my family . It doesnt matter what I say to them they just dont want to listen . My parents think I have lost my mind and others give me a condesending answer like ( if it helps you get through life) . So in the end I find myself pointing the finger at God , (like I have any power) accusing him of being unfair and unjust . I know my thoughts are wrong and somehow I have twisted things to come to this conclusion .

But when I read things like Romans 9 v18-23 I am angry and sad and afraid

Maybe its because I am realizing for the first time I really am powerless to do anything .

How on earth do you come to peace with this ?


Something happened just now as I am finishing up this post , I got my websters dictionary out to check my spelling , I opened it and the first word i layed my eyes on was "Prayer"

its hard to realize we are powerless in this.
:hug:

they too as we have free will to choose. each chooses.
thats hard to accept when they choose wrongly we know the consequences they just dont care...

I think we have to accept the fact that the Lord cares deeply about everyone.
but again they have a choice to open the door to Him or not too.

realizing God IS fair and just.

and yep, prayer! we always seem to like to use it like a spare tire, only when we have a blow out or something, but prayer is the biggest thing should be the first.

I was just watching the movie amazing grace. the man who wrote the words to the song if I remember right did'nt live to see the slave trade in england abolished.
sometimes we wont see or even know what the Lord is doing, but realize He IS
busy working on the heart, He knows EXACTLY what needs to be done and in what time too.

we'd like it "right now"! but one thing in the movie a statement made was God does'nt always work in the storm, sometimes its in the drip drip drip. :nod:
(hope I said it right)

[CoreIssue]

I am going to lay a few things out that I am struggling with , in the hopes of getting some help here.

I have struggled with the issue of eternal Hell before and thought that I had come to a kind of acceptance of it but I guess not.
It is hard.
Its really playing on my mind as I think about my unsaved family members and friends and just the world in general .
You can only do so much. They are personally responsible.

The problem is not that I dont believe in hell , the problem is that I do and I feel powerless to save my family . It doesnt matter what I say to them they just dont want to listen . My parents think I have lost my mind and others give me a condesending answer like ( if it helps you get through life) . So in the end I find myself pointing the finger at God , (like I have any power) accusing him of being unfair and unjust . I know my thoughts are wrong and somehow I have twisted things to come to this conclusion .

It is not God's fault. The simple reality is that those who reject God's rule must be confined or they would be constant problems.

But when I read things like Romans 9 v18-23 I am angry and sad and afraid

Maybe its because I am realizing for the first time I really am powerless to do anything .

How on earth do you come to peace with this ?

By realizing people make their own decisions. God gives every person that lived a full chance to turn to him, in accordance to the times and places they lived.

He gives those with little information available far less standards to meet that those with more.

People who reject God reject all of him. That includes all the good things.

If God gave them a separate place just to live in, the evil ones would practice their evil again, on others. God will not allow or reward them that ability.

There is no way to give them a nice place without them corrupting it. Evil never remains static, it always grows worse. So think of what even the mildest of evil doers would be in a trillion years.

Yea. I had to think this through myself. Once I realized those who reject God give no alternative to Hell and the Lake, I understood they do it to themselves. God, you or I are not responsible.

But we must try to bring them to God. If they can be brought, God will get them there.

Something happened just now as I am finishing up this post , I got my websters dictionary out to check my spelling , I opened it and the first word i layed my eyes on was "Prayer"
The old get what you need when you really need it. God is good.

[InTheWind]

Also God knows all this and He knows many will miss the rapture and go into the tribulation period where God will make it pretty clear in who too believe in. There will be many that are saved at this time, the sad part is they will have to die but that`s better then not making it to Heaven at all.
If i`m wrong about that someone feel free to correct me.

[John Beckett]

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Yes, I have heard some people say
that they are mad at God.

But have any of them ever wondered
just how Mad He might be with them??

I mean, look at all He has Done for us.

And how about the Ultimate Sacrifice He Made
when He Sent His Only Begotten Son here
into this world to be mocked, tortured,
called names, spat upon, and eventually
killed in one of the most horrific ways ever
devised by the free-spirited creature called
man??!

And all so many can do is turn their nose up
at those who believe in Him??

The most Beautiful Man to ever Grace this planet
with His Holy Presence, and people wave Him off
as just another myth!

All we can do is pray for them and keep being
as nice as possible. Just plant a "Seed", and
pray that the weeds around it are choked out
and defeated.

You and your beloved are in my prayers,
dear Sis!

:nod: :pray:


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[roman8]

Its seems I am having trouble thinking clearly these days . My mind is in overdrive .

Thanks everyone for your help. You are all right , I know that . God will do what is right , he will be just . In the end no one will point the finger at him and say he is wrong or they dont deserve it .:think:

[kay-gee]

All you can do really is live the life to the best of your ability in front of them so they can see the power of Christ in you. After that, there is not much you can do. Be careful not to diss your family just cause they don't get it. You still gotta love them and participate in their lives. Share in the earthly blessing of family while you can, because this world is all you are going to have together. At the end of life, thats it!

all the best...

[John Beckett]

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Roman8, that reply from me was NOT meant
to point fingers at you. I was just saying that
we need to remember what Jesus Went through
for us. And if there are people in this world
who don't care, then how much sympathy
can we have for them??

They are so smug in their defiance. :grumble:

Right?

So, rather than accuse God Almighty of being
mean, let us remember that He has Given us
soooooooo manyyyyyy Signs and Prophets to
get us to see that He is Real. But many people
simply refuse to see, because they don't want
their fun and games exposed by the Light of
the Lord!

I am still trying to get my mother to see the Light,
but she is tough.

Please keep her in your prayers, as i am keeping
you and yours in mine, dear Sis!

:hug: :clapclap:


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[a.baker]

I don't know if this helps but I have many in my family who are in the same boat. Yes prayer is so important and powerful. If you have any Christian friends you can pray together with thats always helpful too. God is there and He is listening. When I think of people that have the information but reject Jesus; I cry. I cry because I feel so sad for the way Jesus is teated. Think of Jesus as He is our brother. And think of God as He is our Father. God is our family and He is also King. Everything He does or says is just. You tell your family about Jesus because you love them. They will chose to listen or not. Nothing you can control. Maybe something is coming in the short future to help it to click in their thinking. Thinking about you sister! Also don't forget to pray to God too about all your struggles. He knows your hurting and wants to help.

[roman8]

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Roman8, that reply from me was NOT meant
to point fingers at you. I was just saying that
we need to remember what Jesus Went through
for us. And if there are people in this world
who don't care, then how much sympathy
can we have for them??

They are so smug in their defiance. :grumble:

Right?

So, rather than accuse God Almighty of being
mean, let us remember that He has Given us
soooooooo manyyyyyy Signs and Prophets to
get us to see that He is Real. But many people
simply refuse to see, because they don't want
their fun and games exposed by the Light of
the Lord!

I am still trying to get my mother to see the Light,
but she is tough.

Please keep her in your prayers, as i am keeping
you and yours in mine, dear Sis!

:hug: :clapclap:


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John I will pray for your Mom , and I never felt like you were pointing a finger at me .

I have read and appreciated all the counsel :hug:

[roman8]

Over the last few days , What I have been led to is my fullness of pride . In all of this I am being humbled.
I have spent my life trying to control everything. But I am powerless , the only power I have comes from above . I am the clay and he is the Potter . Who am I to say " why hast thou made me thus"

Thanks everyone

[CoreIssue]

Praying for your situation, John, as well.

I find myself praying more and more for situations of my fellow saints and guidance for myself. A sign of the times, I believe.

[a.baker]

:pray: Praying for you both and your families.

[John Beckett]

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TO ROMAN8: Amen to "i am the clay, and
He is the Potter!" woo HOOOO!! :yowza:

and ty for your prayers. :hug:

TO CORE & BAKER: ty both, as well! :grouphug: