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John Beckett
11-09-2007, 10:17 AM
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Feds ban grandma's angel ornament on Christmas tree

HUD orders residents to avoid Jesus in decorations


Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development officials have announced a ban on any decorations in HUD housing complexes that mention Jesus or represent religion for the Christmas season, and the American Family Association (http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.afa.net/Petitions/Issuedetail.asp?id=274) has responded with a petition drive to overturn the decision.
The AFA has set up a link (http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.afa.net) to allow constituents to send e-mails to the HUD secretary or President Bush expressing their objections to the policy.
The issue arose at the Plant City Living Center in Plant City, Fla., where 85-year-old Mrs. Arnold was told that federal law now prohibits (http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.afa.net/pdfs/fairhousing.pdf) her from displaying anything that references religion – words, decorations and the like – in the common area of her apartment building, a HUD facility.
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The grandmother told AFA she was instructed that even an angel decoration would be disallowed by the ban, which makes her think of the restrictions in Germany during World War II. (http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.afa.net/mp3s/actionalert_hud.mp3)
According to the center, HUD has issued a directive banning "any religious symbols or religious words associated with Christmas," which effectively prevents Mrs. Arnold from placing a small Christmas tree outside her door if it contains any religious symbols or words – "even an angel," AFA said in a special alert asking for e-mails.
A spokeswoman at the center who preferred not to give her name told WND the rules now prevent displays "like a manger, like a Christ child, any religious symbols."
"We used to have a sign outside that said, 'Jesus is the reason for the season,' but we can't anymore," she told WND. "We're all very unhappy about that."
The building has about 40 one-bedroom apartments for seniors who are at least 62 years old.
The spokeswoman said she didn't know what would be used for decorations now. "I don't know. We can probably decorate the tree, but we can't put anything on it that symbolizes Christ," she said.
"If the residents want to have a Christmas party in their community room, they cannot call it a Christmas party. The Center says HUD directs residents not to use the word 'Christmas' but to use the word 'holiday,'" the AFA advisory said.
"A Sunday School class from a church near Mrs. Arnold's apartment comes every year to host a Hanging of the Greens and Christmas Party for all the residents. She said the highlight of their Christmas Party comes at the very end of The Hanging of the Greens when someone places the angel on top of their Christmas tree. Their tradition is now banned by the federal government," the AFA said.
The family group noted the federal government has become increasingly active in banning Christianity from the public square, citing the National Park Service's efforts to conceal the words "Laus Deo," which is Latin for "Praise Be to God" at the Washington Monument, (http://www.wnd.com/redir/r.asp?http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58424) and the move by a Veterans Administration official (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58395) to ban the script of a flag-folding ceremony that mentions "Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" and "Father, Son and Holy Ghost" at 100 national cemeteries.
However, "both of these were rescinded after AFA supporters sent e-mails to proper authorities," the AFA said. In the case of the Washington Monument dispute, Park Service officials told WND they got 26,000 e-mails in a morning. WND also reported earlier this week that government officials in Fort Collins, Colo., are considering new regulations for Christmas decorations that appear to ban red and green lights because they are too religious. (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58528)


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InTheWind
11-09-2007, 10:55 AM
Sad, very sad. :(

CTZonEdit
11-09-2007, 11:12 AM
Until people fight back this will continue.

The memo specifically states that as long as organized events held in the community room are open to every one then its OK. Including bible studies.

But you cant have a Christmas party?

Id like someone to tell me the last Christmas party they went to where someone was not allowed in because they were of another faith?

a.baker
11-09-2007, 11:38 AM
Now what do red and green lights have to do with religion!? And what about freedom of religion?! Yes we need to do something about it everyone!! What can we do? I have also heard about jails and prisons banning anyone coming in to have bible studies or talk about God. It was a 100% volunteer thing, even those who decided to attend it was a choice. Nothing was pushed upon anyone! But yet they still allow other volunteer programs to continue. Yup we are seeing this thing more and more and it's getting about ridiculous. Those people in those HUD homes have close to nothing left and now they want to take away their joy they find in Jesus? Yup we need to raise something over this; we must not sit back and be quiet! Hmm what could we do; any suggestions? Lets act!

CoreIssue
11-09-2007, 01:03 PM
It is everywhere.

Our Mayor, when elected 2 years ago, whent with Holiday Tree and Season and eliminated prayers opening Council Meetings.

Needless to say it is Christmas Tree and Season again and he now opens meetings with prayers.

He has to go in 2 years, or sooner. Those who try this always end up showing other issues in other areas.

Jessie
11-09-2007, 02:13 PM
It is everywhere.

Our Mayor, when elected 2 years ago, whent with Holiday Tree and Season and eliminated prayers opening Council Meetings.

Needless to say it is Christmas Tree and Season again and he now opens meetings with prayers.

He has to go in 2 years, or sooner. Those who try this always end up showing other issues in other areas.


because the mayor did this is this why the water is drying up?

CoreIssue
11-09-2007, 02:24 PM
It is everywhere.

Our Mayor, when elected 2 years ago, whent with Holiday Tree and Season and eliminated prayers opening Council Meetings.

Needless to say it is Christmas Tree and Season again and he now opens meetings with prayers.

He has to go in 2 years, or sooner. Those who try this always end up showing other issues in other areas.


because the mayor did this is this why the water is drying up?
The water issues are in all of mid and nothern GA, east half of AL, souther TN, SC and parts of NC. Very wide spread.

But these kinds of actions are becoming more common. God is not going to reward them.