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lighthouse
09-26-2007, 06:07 PM
Here is a quote from Joel Rosenberg who was on Glenn Beck last night:

A quote from Joel Rosenberg:

By Joel C. Rosenberg
(TORONTO, Canada, September 24, 2007) -- I'm in Toronto tonight taping a series of interviews on Epicenter for a Canadian TV network, but I will be on CNN's "Glenn Beck" show tonight (7pm, 9pm and midnight eastern) to discuss the visit by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to New York, and specificially his speech today at Columbia University....two quick points: first, it's an how Ahmadinejad began the speech -- rather than end with a call that Allah would hasten the coming of the Islamic Messiah known as the "Mahdi" or the "Twelfth Imam" or the "just and promised One" as he did in 2006 and 2006 in his speeches at the U.N., the Iranian leader actually began the speech this way....why?....it's not yet clear,

but it's important to note that in 2005, Ahmadinejad was telling colleagues that the end of the world was just two or three years away, and the way to hasten the coming of the Mahdi was to annihilate Israel and the U.S....that was two years ago.. ..he's no longer burying the lead....yet much of the American media is....they don't seem to realize how central Ahmadinejad's Shiite Islamic eschatology (end times theology) is to Iran's current foreign policy....and that's why they are missing how dangerous this regime really is....when the Mahdi arrives on earth, he is supposed to appear in Mecca and Medina, but where does he go then?.....not to Iran....not to Jerusalem....not to Europe or Russia....he supposedly heads for Iraq....that's what Shiite leaders have taught for centuries....which is why Iran is sending insurgents, weapons and money into Iraq, to create the conditions of chaos and carnage into which the Mahdi can come, finish off the U.S. and Israel, and set up a global Islamic caliphate headquartered in Iraq....who's the leading Shiite insurgent in Iraq?....Moqtada al-Sadr....what's the name of his militia?.....the Mahdi Army.....and now you know the rest of the story.

lighthouse
09-26-2007, 06:09 PM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/19/gb.01.html

JOEL ROSENBERG, AUTHOR, "EPICENTER": Well, Glenn, President Ahmadinejad in Iran after he came home from his speech last year at the United Nations, saying that he was surrounded by a halo of light. And everyone wasn`t blinking while he spoke, so mesmerized were they by his words.

He was telling people that he believed that the world had only two or three years until the end of the world, until the coming of the Islamic messiah and that it was his job to hasten the coming of the Islamic messiah by launching a global jihad to destroy Israel, the little Satan and the United States, the great Satan in his view. That was a year ago.

We are therefore, by his clock, his timetable, only a year or two away now, I guess, from the end of the world.




ROSENBERG: Well, it`s amazing, Ahmadinejad, who no one in the world basically had heard of a year ago, now has alliances with three nuclear powers. Russia, China and North Korea. I detail this in the book "Epicenter".

I`ve got to tell you, Glenn, the most dangerous relationship on the planet right now is Russia and Iran. Putin has joined the axis of evil.

lighthouse
09-26-2007, 06:13 PM
http://joelrosenberg.blogspot.com/search?q=glen+beck

JOEL ROSENBERG, AUTHOR, "EPICENTER": He certainly is, Glenn. And I think you`ve picked up on a really important point, that in his previous trips to the United States in 2005 and 2006, he ended his speeches at the United Nations by praying for the Islamic messiah, known as the Mahdi, this just and promised one, to arrive. But now you`re absolutely right, he is leading with that. And this is interesting because of the timing. When Ahmadinejad was elected in June of 2005, he began telling people that the end of the world was just two or three years away and that the way to hasten the coming of the Mahdi, the Islamic messiah, was to annihilate Israel, the Little Satan, in his view, and the United States, the Great Satan. And now we are two years into that, right? We`re now in the fall of 2007, two years later. We don`t know exactly his timetable, but we know what he`s been doing over the last two years: building military alliances with Russia, China and North Korea, three nuclear powers; building 3,000, that we know of, centrifuges to enrich uranium; and building alliances with Syria and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon to prepare for this annihilation.

lighthouse
09-26-2007, 06:13 PM
BECK: Real quick, this guy is so dangerous, and these twelvers are so dangerous, that the Ayatollah Khomeini back in 1979 banned them, tried to kill them all, because they are just so volatile. But the 12th imam does not come back to Iran. This is critical that you understand this, because both Osama bin Laden say this is important, and President Tom says this is important. Where does the 12th imam return?


ROSENBERG: He goes to Iraq, to Karbala. [Correction: actually, it's Kufa, Iraq]. He first comes to Mecca, then Medina, but he then goes to Iraq. And in the conditions of chaos and carnage, that`s where he emerges to take over the world and create an Islamic caliphate where, as one of his key advisers, the Ayatollah Amini said -- and I quote him in "Epicenter" -- the Mahdi will offer the religion of Islam to the Jews and Christians. If they accept, they`ll be spared. Otherwise, they will be killed.

Chrystalwuzhere
09-26-2007, 07:42 PM
I love Joel Rosenburg. His insights are very illuminating in these times.

Anyone who doesn't perceive Iran as a threat should listen to him for a while. He could change their mind.

Jessie
09-26-2007, 07:43 PM
all in Gods time not theirs....

cbressler1976
09-26-2007, 08:44 PM
I was reading about this on another board too...people may think I am awful for saying this....but I believe that the Quran is litterally Satan's bible....forget the silly satanic bible that people in the us have....no, he is smarter then that...everything in the Quran is opposite of the bible....hmmm....muslims believe to bring back mohammad they must have war....this is awful thinking!!!

InTheWind
09-26-2007, 09:15 PM
Question, do you suppose our gov. knows all this and that`s why Bush wants too keep us in Iraq?

cbressler1976
09-26-2007, 09:25 PM
you....that's a great question itw....i didn't think of that....

InTheWind
09-26-2007, 09:33 PM
Another question, when the AC comes on the scene does he claim too be God or Jesus?
When this Mahdi comes isn`t Jesus ( in their view) supposed too return also.
So this all takes place and then the AC comes and claims too be God the father of Jesus and the Mahdi and makes peace and decieves the world.
I must be losing my mind :aah:

Jessie
09-26-2007, 09:39 PM
I think instead of them calling him jesus, they call him the christ.

so you hear the christ conscientousness and all that.

CoreIssue
09-27-2007, 11:30 AM
Question, do you suppose our gov. knows all this and that`s why Bush wants too keep us in Iraq?
I don't think so.

If I understand Bushes beliefs, correctly, he is Replacement Theology and I suspect Kingdom.

So he believes we will bring to whole world to Christ as Church.

I cannot prove it, but I strongly suspect it.

CoreIssue
09-27-2007, 11:31 AM
I believe Jessie nailed it.

Those that think he is apostate Church just plain do not understand.

Jessie
09-27-2007, 04:13 PM
Question, do you suppose our gov. knows all this and that`s why Bush wants too keep us in Iraq?
I don't think so.

If I understand Bushes beliefs, correctly, he is Replacement Theology and I suspect Kingdom.

So he believes we will bring to whole world to Christ as Church.

I cannot prove it, but I strongly suspect it.

sure would make better sense!

and I think too all those into this are not into Jesus but that christ....

Chrystalwuzhere
09-30-2007, 11:42 AM
Bingo!

Instead of claiming to be Jesus, he will claim to be Christ. Too many have already come and claimed to be Jesus. They're considered kooks by many, and followed by a few.

No, the Jews rejected Jesus as their messiah. He (the antichrist) will claim to be messiah. And for a while they believe it...until their temple is desecrated, that is.

CoreIssue
09-30-2007, 12:00 PM
Too many Christians do not understand the term Christ does NOT have to refer to Jesus.

Chrystalwuzhere
10-02-2007, 07:54 PM
Yep.

They're still waiting for their Christ. They don't believe Jesus was it.

Christ is not Jesus' last name!!!

Jessie
10-02-2007, 09:26 PM
Too many Christians do not understand the term Christ does NOT have to refer to Jesus.

yep