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herald
09-14-2007, 07:02 PM
"EVERY SCRIPTURE IS GOD BREATHED and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; so that the man of God may be perfect, fully furnished for every good work." 2 Tim 3:16 (Literal Greek)

OUR CREATOR SPOKE THE WORLDS INTO EXISTENCE: "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." Heb 11:3.

"Who (Jesus) being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding ALL THINGS by the Word of His power..." Heb 1:3.

THE FIRST CHALLENGE TO THE WORD OF GOD was in the garden of Eden, when Satan queried, "Hath God said...?" Gen 3:1.

THE WORD = THE LAW: In Psalm 119, the word, "Word," Is used, interchangeably, with, "law," "commandments," "statutes," "precepts," "judgments," testimonies."

WE ARE BORN AGAIN BY HIS WORD: "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth forever." 1 Pe 1:23; Ja 1:18; John 15:3; Eph 5:25,26.

OBEYING HIS WORD KEEPS US FROM SIN: "Thy Word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against thee." Ps 119:11.

"But be ye doers of the Word, and not hearers, only, deceiving your own selves." Ja 1:22.

HIS WORD GUIDES US: "Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path." Ps 119:105,67,103.

HIS WORD IS BREAD TO OUR SPIRIT: Jesus said, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread, alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Mt 4:4.

"...I have esteemed the Words of His mouth more than my necessary food." Job 23:12.

"Thy Words were found and I did eat them; and thy Word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of my heart..." Jer 15:16.

FAITH COMES BY THE WORD: "So then faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God." Rom 10:17.

The Roman Centurion...said...but, speak the Word, only, and my servant shall be healed." Mt 8:8.
Jesus responded, "Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel." Mt 8:10.

HEALING AND DELIVERANCE COME BY HIS WORD: "He sent His Word and healed them and delivered them from their destructions." Ps 107:20.

TRADITION RENDERS THE WORD OF GOD, USELESS: Mt 7:9-13.

THOSE WHO OBEY GOD'S WORD ARE MORE BLESSED THAN MARY: "...a certain woman...said unto Him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee and the paps which thou hast sucked." But, he (Jesus) said, Yea, rather, blessed are they that hear the Word of God and keep it." Lu 11:27,28.

WE ARE TO TREMBLE AT HIS WORD: "...but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word." Isa 66:2.

JESUS QUOTED SCRIPTURE IN SPIRITUAL WARFARE WITH SATAN: "It is written..." Mt 4:4,7,10.

"And take the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God." Eph 6:17.

"For the Word of God is quick and powerful and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Heb 4:12.

WE ARE TO SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES TO VERIFY WHAT WE ARE TAUGHT: "The Bereans were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the Word with all readiness of mind, searching the Scriptures, daily, whether those things were so." Acts 17:11.

THE DISCIPLES SPOKE THE WORD OF GOD: "...ye received the Word of God, which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the Word of God..." 1 Thess 2:13.

MEN ARE MARTYRED FOR THE WORD OF GOD: "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the Word of God..." Rev 6:9.

And, Most Significant Of All - JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD: "That which is from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled of the Word of life..." 1 John 1:1.

"For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, THE WORD, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one." 1 JOhn 5:7.

"In the beginning was the Word and The Word was with God and THE WORD WAS GOD...and The Word became flesh and dwelt among us." John 1.

"And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and HIS NAME IS CALLED THE WORD OF GOD." Rev 19:13.

All praise to the expired ("breathed out") Word of the living God!

CoreIssue
09-14-2007, 08:30 PM
You were warned multiple times to stop preaching and answer questions.

Here is my last post to you, in fact.

I suggest you return to your last post, prior to this one, and heed my post to you.

Next time you post, it better be in answer to that one, or you are gone.

Your gone.

kay-gee
09-15-2007, 10:02 PM
Where is the beginning of this thread?
all the best...

CoreIssue
09-15-2007, 11:16 PM
Where is the beginning of this thread?
all the best...
That was it.

This poster comes on randomly and posts preaching posts.

Been warned to stop it or answer questions.

Just a matter of time before they came back to get banned.

kay-gee
09-19-2007, 01:22 PM
What were the questions?
all the best....

CoreIssue
09-19-2007, 01:55 PM
What were the questions?
all the best....
Click Herald's name and check out all Posts and Threads.

Reedemed84
11-20-2007, 01:10 AM
I know that Herald was banned, but I wanted to just quickly change something he wrote, because of how important I believe it is.

John 1:1-3

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim (the Father), and the Word was Elohim (The Son). He was in the beginning with Elohim (the Father). All came to be through Him and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Again... going back to Elohim has 3 meanings. See my post here:

http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=27559#post27559

CoreIssue
11-20-2007, 11:13 AM
I know that Herald was banned, but I wanted to just quickly change something he wrote, because of how important I believe it is.

John 1:1-3

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim (the Father), and the Word was Elohim (The Son). He was in the beginning with Elohim (the Father). All came to be through Him and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Again... going back to Elohim has 3 meanings. See my post here:

http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=27559#post27559
For this post, Elohim does not mean Father. That is cult talk.

Reedemed84
11-20-2007, 01:54 PM
I know that Herald was banned, but I wanted to just quickly change something he wrote, because of how important I believe it is.

John 1:1-3

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim (the Father), and the Word was Elohim (The Son). He was in the beginning with Elohim (the Father). All came to be through Him and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Again... going back to Elohim has 3 meanings. See my post here:

http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=27559#post27559
For this post, Elohim does not mean Father. That is cult talk.


Cult talk?! Ha ha ha! You're funny. That's not true. Look at any ISR Scriptures Bible.

CTZonEdit
11-20-2007, 02:15 PM
Anyone who denies the Trinity is speaking from a cult.

And ISR Scripture bible? If your studies are based off this text then no wonder you err so harshly.

CoreIssue
11-20-2007, 02:16 PM
I know that Herald was banned, but I wanted to just quickly change something he wrote, because of how important I believe it is.

John 1:1-3

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Elohim (the Father), and the Word was Elohim (The Son). He was in the beginning with Elohim (the Father). All came to be through Him and without Him not even one came to be that came to be.

Again... going back to Elohim has 3 meanings. See my post here:

http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=27559#post27559
For this post, Elohim does not mean Father. That is cult talk.


Cult talk?! Ha ha ha! You're funny. That's not true. Look at any ISR Scriptures Bible.
Why should I? Those are doctrinal adds, not translations.

The ISR is a doctrinal paraphrase, not a true translation.

Reedemed84
11-20-2007, 02:50 PM
My studies aren't based on just the ISR Scriptures. I've got the Torah, Tanak, and HCSB, Paleo Times, and KJV with Strongs. All support what I'm saying.

If you're so quick to say that I speak from a cult, then you must fear what I say.

I speak the truth, nothing more, nothing less.

Acts 18:9- "And the Master spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, "Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not be silent"

I think you should read Romans 12:9-21, Romans 14, and Romans 15:1-13. We are suppose to love one another in the truth and Word of Yahweh. Don't hate me because I speak the truth. Don't hate me because you disagree with me. We both love the Father, I just think it's important to show that the Father and Son are not equal. Only because of the first commandment. The Son should be bowed to as the King of Kings, but only the Father is to be worshipped.

Peace and Shalom in the name of Yahweh

CoreIssue
11-20-2007, 02:53 PM
Anyone who denies the Trinity is speaking from a cult.

And ISR Scripture bible? If your studies are based off this text then no wonder you err so harshly.
Agree. It is like the Catholic Bible and the New World Translation, doctrinal paraphrases written to push a belief system.

CoreIssue
11-20-2007, 03:18 PM
My studies aren't based on just the ISR Scriptures. I've got the Torah, Tanak, and HCSB, Paleo Times, and KJV with Strongs. All support what I'm saying.
Nope. I posted the Strong's definition. It most assuredly does not agree with you. Neither does the KJV. Plain false to say it does.

Paleo Time (http://www.paleotimes.org/)? Well, it sure isn't NT based and is anti-Trinity. There is the link to it for anyone curious.

HCSB version doesn't agree with the ISR. The Col 1 discussion, in example, does not agree with the ISR
15 (javascript:VClk('Col 1:15')) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation;[8] The One who is preeminent over all creation
16 (javascript:VClk('Col 1:16')) because by Him everything was created, in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities— all things have been created through Him and for Him.
17 (javascript:VClk('Col 1:17')) He is before all things, and by Him all things hold together.
18 (javascript:VClk('Col 1:18')) He is also the head of the body, the church; He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He might come to have first place in everything.
19 (javascript:VClk('Col 1:19')) For God was pleased [to have]* The bracketed text has been added for clarity. all His fullness[9] Eph 3:19 (http://bible.lifeway.com/book.asp?ref=Eph 3:19) dwell in Him,
20 (javascript:VClk('Col 1:20')) and through Him to reconcile everything to Himself by making peace through the blood of His cross[10] Other mss add through Him — whether things on earth or things in heaven.
If you're so quick to say that I speak from a cult, then you must fear what I say.
Cult speak. I don't fear what you say, I refute it.
I speak the truth, nothing more, nothing less.
Far less. You deny Christ has come, which John says is anti-Christ. You deny God with God who became flesh.
Acts 18:9- "And the Master spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, "Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not be silent"
Nope. From the Holman Bible you referenced.
9 (javascript:VClk('Ac 18:9')) Then the Lord said to Paul in a night vision
I think you should read Romans 12:9-21, Romans 14, and Romans 15:1-13. We are suppose to love one another in the truth and Word of Yahweh.
The issue isn't love. You would not be here if there was no love.

The issue is the Truth from God's word. I am commanded to defend sound doctrine and am doing so.

Cults love to go personal and try to spin those who dispute them as being unloving and worst.
Don't hate me because I speak the truth.
And here comes the rhetoric and false accusations. When there are no proofs you guys always go this route.
Don't hate me because you disagree with me.
Yea. Hate. Attack the messenger with false accusations.
We both love the Father,
No, I love God, who is three persons. You have a false god.
I just think it's important to show that the Father and Son are not equal.
In their divinity they are equal. In the humanity of Christ to the Father they are not. Two natures, not one, in Jesus.

Only because of the first commandment. The Son should be bowed to as the King of Kings, but only the Father is to be worshipped.

Christ sits on the Throne of God as his equal and he stands before him as his High Priest as a human. He is both.