Genesis must be Literal for the whole Bible to make sense

[Sid]

Unless the first 11 chapters of Genesis are authentic historical events, the rest of the Bible is incomplete and incomprehensible as to its full meaning.


The theme of the Bible is Redemption, and may be outlined thus:


• God’s redeeming purpose is revealed in Genesis 1–11,

• God’s redeeming purpose progresses from Genesis 12 to Jude 25, and

• God’s redeeming purpose is consummated in Revelation 1–22.


But why does mankind need to be redeemed?

What is it that he needs to be redeemed from?


The answer is given in Genesis 1–11, namely, from the ruin brought about by sin.


Unless we know that the entrance of sin to the human race was a true historical fact, God’s purpose in providing a substitutionary atonement is a mystery.

Conversely, the historical truth of Genesis 1–11 shows that all mankind has come under the righteous anger of God and needs salvation from the penalty, power, and presence of sin.




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Site says it is having tech problems.

But I agree with your post, as is, Sid.

[Sid]

Fixed link.

[roman8]

Unless the first 11 chapters of Genesis are authentic historical events, the rest of the Bible is incomplete and incomprehensible as to its full meaning.


The theme of the Bible is Redemption, and may be outlined thus:


• God’s redeeming purpose is revealed in Genesis 1–11,

• God’s redeeming purpose progresses from Genesis 12 to Jude 25, and

• God’s redeeming purpose is consummated in Revelation 1–22.


But why does mankind need to be redeemed?

What is it that he needs to be redeemed from?


The answer is given in Genesis 1–11, namely, from the ruin brought about by sin.


Unless we know that the entrance of sin to the human race was a true historical fact, God’s purpose in providing a substitutionary atonement is a mystery.

Conversely, the historical truth of Genesis 1–11 shows that all mankind has come under the righteous anger of God and needs salvation from the penalty, power, and presence of sin.




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Yes. I believe it literal. It has to be.
If Adam isnt a literal man and there wasnt a literal fall , then why would we literaly need a saviour.

[kay-gee]

Right on! all the best...

[a.baker]

Yup!

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[dc122]

In my own opinion, and I use that word strongly, there is an extrem way to look at the creation. It can accuratley be interpreted both litteral and symbolical. There are many holes and gaps in the creation to question, too much for me to sum up quickly. However I see the creaton of man and our fall as symbolical. Eden is symbolic to a world without chaos. The tree representes the knowledge man set out to gain about the wonders of his creator. It is through mans search from wich he came that ingnorance grew. I give you a verse from the gnostic scriptures. Now I am no gnostic but I do beleive it has interesting things to say that can help us understand. So it goes, “When the totality went about searching for the one they had come forth, and the totality was inside of him, the incomprehensible, inconceivable one who is superior to every thought, ignorance of who the Father was brought about anguish and terror; and the anguish grew solid like a fog, so that no one was able to see. For this reason error became powerful; it works on its own matter foolishly, not having known the truth. It set about with creation, preparing with power and beauty the substitute for truth.” (Gospel of Truth 17:5-20) Besides, it is written that God does not tempt man. Why then, would he place a tree before us and say not to partake of it. Is that not tempting? When I was a child I was always tempted most by the things I was told not to partake in. Human curiousity. Perhapse it is fair to say God told Adam not to partake of the tree (yet). Why? Because man did not fully trust in God yet. As history has shown knowledge without faith is dangerous. When we fully trusted God then we may partake in this knowledge, but out of our own agenda we partook early and damaged our society for ages to come. Free will is the greatest gift ever given by God next to life, it is also are greatest curse. Be wise in your decsions.

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Well, first of all one must understand what Gnosis is, and then provide evidence to accept it as from God.

There is no evidence in support of Gnostic writings.

In otherwords, it is a claim, nothing more. Plus there are many forms of Gnosis that do not agree.

[dc122]

I do agree, as I said I am no gnostic, and I do find the gnostic writtings more questionable than useful. I have read and studied most of it. I merely used as an example. I think the better point I was tring to make is I find the creation more understandable as symbolic than historic.

[CoreIssue]

I do agree, as I said I am no gnostic, and I do find the gnostic writtings more questionable than useful. I have read and studied most of it. I merely used as an example. I think the better point I was tring to make is I find the creation more understandable as symbolic than historic.
Got'cha.

I have no problem with Genesis being literal.

As creatures of freewill, we must have a choice for freewill to be true. The Tree was a choice and was the one and only Law God gave those in a state of innocence.

[tangle sticks]

DO you mean God created every thing in 6 natural days ?
and all people came from adam and eve .
and God first promise of Jesus to come was in Genesis .
and the whole bible was authored by God to tell us about our sin's and our only savior from sin --Jesus
and that every statement the bible makes is Gods inerrant word and infallable
and will never pass away .
thats what i believe .

http://www.lutheranscience.org/

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DO you mean God created every thing in 6 natural days ?
I believe God created the heavens and earth in Genesis 1:1, it was corrupted in verse 2 and the earth we know was formed during the 6 days of creation beginning in verse 3.

and all people came from adam and eve .
and God first promise of Jesus to come was in Genesis .

Yep.

and the whole bible was authored by God to tell us about our sin's and our only savior from sin --Jesus

Ultimately yes, but more than that.

and that every statement the bible makes is Gods inerrant word and infallable

Yep.

and will never pass away .

Not until its function is finished and then we will be literally living it in Eternity.