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Ltanner09
04-04-2007, 11:18 AM
I'd like to see someone, other than the moderators, answer this.
Is there sin in the Millennial Kingdom?
amilltruth
04-04-2007, 11:47 AM
good question, tanner.
Is there sin in the Millennial Kingdom?
The children of those believers who enter the millennium in their regular bodies will still have to choose to be saved by Christ, and some will not.
In addition, God will release Satan from the abyss for a time:
And when the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore (Rev. 20:7-8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev.%2020:7-8&version=49)).
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CoreIssue
04-04-2007, 02:46 PM
Read Isaiah 65. Lenn. It states those who die young do so from sin.
And it says Christ will rule with an iron scepter. That is intolerance of crime and such.
Further, in Zech it says those nations who fail to go to Jerusalem, very year, will be punished. That is sin.
amilltruth
04-05-2007, 01:03 AM
so how "much" sin will there be in the MK?
Ltanner09
04-05-2007, 04:19 AM
Read Isaiah 65. Lenn. It states those who die young do so from sin.
So we agree that Satan being bound does not eliminate sin?
amilltruth
04-05-2007, 09:33 AM
Read Isaiah 65. Lenn. It states those who die young do so from sin.
And it says Christ will rule with an iron scepter. That is intolerance of crime and such.
Further, in Zech it says those nations who fail to go to Jerusalem, very year, will be punished. That is sin.
So are you saying core, that with Christ himself, think about that now, WITH CHRIST HIMSELF ruling with an iron septer, that is "intolerant of crime and such" , how in the world would you have crime?
I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I SERVE A MUCH MORE POWERFUL GOD THAN THAT!!
do you not think Christ HIMSELF can do a good job with reigning? I mean if he is going to rule with a ROD OF IRON, surlely he could do the job dont you think?
amilltruth
04-05-2007, 09:35 AM
Read Isaiah 65. Lenn. It states those who die young do so from sin.
So we agree that Satan being bound does not eliminate sin?
imagine that tanner, everyone looks around and says, no, noway satan can be bound now, I mean look at all the sin there is, but yet fast forward to their future MK, and guess what you still have sin, with them admitting satan is bound.
amazing isnt it?
CTZonEdit
04-05-2007, 03:14 PM
Yes it is quite amazing, that people are such sinners that EVEN in the MK with Christ ruling that they continue to sin. Thats how powerful it is.
Shows us EXACTLY how corrupt sin nature is in us all.
And this must happen since no one will have ANY EXCUSE before God.
"Well God if only you had been there to oversee us in the flesh and tell us in you own person then we would not have sinned!"
And God says rubbish to that excuse. He will cover all the bases.
amilltruth
04-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Yes it is quite amazing, that people are such sinners that EVEN in the MK with Christ ruling that they continue to sin. Thats how powerful it is.
Shows us EXACTLY how corrupt sin nature is in us all.
And this must happen since no one will have ANY EXCUSE before God.
"Well God if only you had been there to oversee us in the flesh and tell us in you own person then we would not have sinned!"
And God says rubbish to that excuse. He will cover all the bases.
so what is your reason agian for saying satan cannot be bound now?
amilltruth
04-05-2007, 03:28 PM
and what is your scriptural text that we can look up to see it what you said in your above post is correct?
chapter and verse please
CTZonEdit
04-05-2007, 08:26 PM
Romans 1:18-28 does a good job of explaining it.
Plus add in what we know about our sin natures and its pretty clear.
What you have is people becoming robots once Christ comes to rule. Their freewill is gone and they have no other choice but to follow Christ. Sin is not ultimately done away with until after the judgement.
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