GO DEMs !

[kay-gee]

Time to put a democrat into the whitehouse. Need to bring pendullum back to the centre. 8 years of clinton, 8 years Bush. Now try for 4 and4. Insert some humanity back into your politics. Get some decent social programs to make life less hard for common citizens. Work on getting universal health care. I think thats a democrat vision, isn't it? Ease up a bit on same.sex marriage too, so they don't all flock to Canada. They like it so much that they stay there! And lighten up a bit on Homeland security too! Why should I need a passport to go to your country when we've shared a 5000 mile border for 200 years with no problems? ....All the best!............

[He's Real]

Wow...glad you can't vote here buddy. We don't want Canada's Universal Health care. I spoke with an ex patriot of Canada last week and all he could speak of was how intrusive the government was in the lives of it's citizens. He spoke of the horrors of UHC and was so pleased that he could now get his family decent health care.

Talked to a nurse from Canada that works at Piedmont Hospital in Atlanta, GA and she said the system was driving away quality health professionals like herself. She said she could make more here and provide proper treatments and nursing in the US for her patients where Canada's system was a monstrous bureaucracy.

Yeah....we hear the horror stories of the hospital waits and the rationed medical care. No thanks. Here you go into the hospital asap and get treated rapidly. Even our poor have access to the best health care in the world. Heck for the most part many of our poor shouldn't be classified as poor with all they have.

What other social handout programs do we need. We have em all? And we even share them with illegal alien deadbeats that don't even pay into our system.

As far as needing a passport to visit "our" country.....well it's about time we started identifying those that aren't citizens.

Look..... and try to understand. We don't want to be like Canada. We want to stand on our own.

......All the best!.......... Really

[CoreIssue]

I am soldly with He's Real on this.

Also, will add two points.

First, the border is being tightened because Canada has done such a terrible job finding the terrorists, there, and those who use Canada to get here.

But now they have had some scares and are tightening up some. But they admit their security is woefully lacking.

Second, how can a Christian want an even more liberal stance of a sin God said he 'vomits out?' Meaning homosexuality, of course.

[Jessie]

universal care is well on its way already. out here you CAN NOT get a dr. to do their job the way they used to. even folks in the med. field when this happens roll their eyes and say "its universal care" its here. not fully but here.
they rush ya in and rush ya out with a handful of pills.
no real checking for whats really wrong.

one hospital near us....
you go there sick you may die. I mean that literally.
NO one that knows goes there they make darned sure they are taken to portland or somewhere else. and theres lots of us here that KNOW.

interesting we tighten the borders with canada and leave it wide open with mexico.
miss the good ole days when we just went thru the border security and they'd ask about
whether you had fruit or something like that but those days are gone.

if your a illegal or anything but a citizen you can get just about anything out here.
its discusting.

so many places are lookiing like tiquana here too.

[CoreIssue]

We have a good contrast here.

In Atlanta, where they have tons of socialized medicine and such, the service problems and bad outcomes is rampant.

Where we live, it isn't socialized like that and we have excellent doctors that give great care.

To supply the doctors with the training, facilities and supplies they need costs money. No country with Universal Health Care does that. Not a single one.

They are constantly restricting care and such.

In example, in Brittain, if older than 65, there is a whole list of surgeries and treatments you are barred from receiving. If you or a doctor get them on the side, both go to jail.

That is why the rich folk and those desparate come to this country to get it.

Yep. A ton of problems. I agree.

It isn't a question of if they need fixed, but how. Introducing a whole mega structure of government, that consumes huge portions of the money to run itself, isn't an answer.

The border with Canada is less sealed than with Mexico. And Mexico's isn't sealed nearly tight enough.

The whining from Canada is over needing a passport or card. Same is required from Mexico.

Those issues wouldn't have come about, with Canada, if it hadn't had such an open policy that encouraged the bad guys to go to Canada and then cross the border to the US.

Funny how a blind eye was turned to that until they discovered there were threats to Cananda developing.

The PC folk think they are safe from Islamic. They are blind fools for thinking that. PC or Christian, Islam's only goal is to make you Islamic or dead.

[kay-gee]

You got your own nutbars too. Timothy Mcvey didn't across from Canada. Good ole home grown American boy! Just wondering, why was he not caught before hand? Our RCMP have rounded up all kinds of "plotters" Huge case in Toronto last August. about 16 of em. Re; health care: I visit with Americans every single day and many of them well to do. I hear a lot of complaints from them about the price of health insurance. Seem to need almost a 3rd income in the house just to cover that. Our system has flaws to be sure, but no one can be refused health care by ability to pay. If an ambulance takes longer than 4 minutes, a public inquiry is held by law. Our schools don't need bake sales to remain open either. People on welfare do well too. Why shouldn't they? They are human beings too and should be afforded their dignity. Going for full Maternal and fraternal leave too with full pay. Thats good. Encourages babies. We need babies. Got too much space. Soon coming, fully funded daycare. We live in Cradle to grave security. We have hate laws too. Thats good because hating is bad! Low crime rate. Feel safe. People warm and friendly. Almost paradise EARTH. All thats required of us is a whopping pile of taxes. We are no threat to you. All we ever wanted to cross the border for was cheap gas and milk!!!!!! (and them purdy lookin American gals) Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ....All the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CoreIssue]

We don't want the terrorists you dismantling of your military and national police allows.

Yea, that is how you finance your paradise. Being a parasite on us since it has long been believed to get to you they have to go through us.

But now you have a problem. The terrorists don't work that way. They are in your country coming here and working there.

So, if it mean you don't come across easily, tough. Your convience is not more important than keeping the terrorists out.

Yea, you have paradise. Fewer medical procedures available, often over a year's wait for surgery and so on.

Your system isn't free. Stay up there and pay your taxes to finance it.

[CoreIssue]

As for comparing standards of living between the US and Canada.

Despite this chequered relative performance, positive economic signs have appeared in Canada since 2000, and this document offers a promising forecast of improved Canadian productivity growth rates in the coming years. It seems that Canada is on the cusp of joining other industrialized countries in a period of rapid and sustained productivity growth as a result of a technology-driven economic boom that is forging a knowledge-based society. Growth in Canada’s standard of living is forecast to parallel that of productivity more closely than in the recent past. It is unclear, however, whether growth rates will be sufficient to reverse the widening Canada-U.S. standard-of-living gap that began in the late 1970s.

Full article (http://dsp-psd.communication.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/prb0223-e.htm)

Yea. Paradise.

Later. This conversation is getting silly.

[Sid]

Time to put a democrat into the whitehouse. Need to bring pendullum back to the centre. 8 years of clinton, 8 years Bush.


About five years ago, I woke up early on a Sunday morning and there was absolutely nothing on the tube, so I settled down to a call-in program on C-Span. During the predictable non-stop BushBash, there was one caller that really hit a homerun:


You have to give George W. a little slack, he is merely having to deal with the legacy of 8 years of Bonnie and Clyde in the WhiteHouse.
Whoorah!

[InTheWind]

Heard Obama say he has a complete plan to pull troops out of Iraq, wonder if we`ll ever hear it :ick:
Lots of criticism but no plan, as usual.:(

[CoreIssue]

Ain't that the truth!

[kay-gee]

Don't get me wrong. I admire George Bush. I've gone to bat for him many times in social conversations and taken a lot of scorn for it too. He has to go though. I think you refer to being "lame duck". We all know (us guys) a womans touch on the home. Well think of a womans touch on the country. Give Hilary a shot. I think she got the "metal". Try to go in a little kinder and gentler way as a nation. You'll like it. She will have to bring your taxes up to a realistic level. you been getting a bargain for too long! Hey! Modern weaponry is bloody expensive! Forgive me for tooting Canadas horn a little. I'm from there. Be a traitor if I didn"t. I thank GOD for the blessing of the oppurtunity to come to the Bahamas. It has a charm of it's own too. No big political issues. Mostly sunshine and water. Christianity is actually publically encouraged here. Gotta like it.........All the best.............................

[CoreIssue]

Hilary is nasty. You obviously don't know her history.

And be like Canada? Forget it.

We are not fans of how Canada does things.

[kay-gee]

Yeah I do, she is married to one of the best presidents in American history. Is a senator in NY state. Started off in law in Arkansas. Schooled at Harvard. Whitewater affair. She's a shoe in. Do you all some good. Canada is world renowned for its niceness. Don't you forget it. Even in Holland, they celebrate Canada day annually. We liberated them. And we liberated those american hostages in Iran back in Jimmy Carter era too. We had to. You're our friends and thats just what we do!.......All the best.......

[CTZonEdit]

Sorry she will never make it to office.

Best american president in history?

Compared to who?

[CoreIssue]

Sorry she will never make it to office.

Best american president in history?

Compared to who?
Maybe Carter.

[He's Real]

Sorry she will never make it to office.

Best american president in history?

Compared to who?
Maybe Carter.

Jeff's gonna git you. :roflmbo:

[CoreIssue]

Sorry she will never make it to office.

Best american president in history?

Compared to who?
Maybe Carter.

Jeff's gonna git you. :roflmbo:
Invite him over! :nod:

Too PC for here.

[Randall271933]

Im not sure Im going to vote at all this time

[CoreIssue]

Im not sure Im going to vote at all this time
I know that feeling. :not:

[kay-gee]

There is a very good chance (better than 50/50) That Hilary Clinton could be the next president of the United States. Prepare for it. How bad can it be? I mean seriously. No one yet has said anything about her or what an administration under her would do. Mostly taking pot shots at her. Its likely gonna be a Dem for sure. Rather have her at the switch than Obama............All the best........

[CoreIssue]

There is a very good chance (better than 50/50) That Hilary Clinton could be the next president of the United States. Prepare for it. How bad can it be? I mean seriously. No one yet has said anything about her or what an administration under her would do. Mostly taking pot shots at her. Its likely gonna be a Dem for sure. Rather have her at the switch than Obama............All the best........
Hilary does not stand a chance of being elected.

There is a core group of about 39%, that has remained firm, they would never vote for her, ever.

We know what she is about. She is a socialist.

Those of us who have followed her career know she is a liar and crook. A spiteful person who will use and abuse everyone around her.

She has a history only the most avid liberals will ignore.

She will not even get the Dems nomination. Of the current knowns, I would say Edwards has the best shot at the nomination.

[kay-gee]

Why is SOCIALIST such a dirty word with you folks. A socialist is not a communist!!!! A socialist believes in advancing the well being of people, thus the root(social) Explain what is wrong with a society that looks out for the well being and prosperity of all of its members regardless of financial standing. Why do so-called "conservatives" think that its better to plow away in a society of all out dog eat dog-ism. America could use a heaping dose of old fashioned niceness!!!!!...........All the best.............

[CoreIssue]

Why is SOCIALIST such a dirty word with you folks. A socialist is not a communist!!!! A socialist believes in advancing the well being of people, thus the root(social) Explain what is wrong with a society that looks out for the well being and prosperity of all of its members regardless of financial standing. Why do so-called "conservatives" think that its better to plow away in a society of all out dog eat dog-ism. America could use a heaping dose of old fashioned niceness!!!!!...........All the best.............
The USSR was a socialist state.

Hitler was a socialist.

The state is all and all is state. No room for God in ANY socialist country, ever.

[Jessie]

Why is SOCIALIST such a dirty word with you folks. A socialist is not a communist!!!! A socialist believes in advancing the well being of people, thus the root(social) Explain what is wrong with a society that looks out for the well being and prosperity of all of its members regardless of financial standing. Why do so-called "conservatives" think that its better to plow away in a society of all out dog eat dog-ism. America could use a heaping dose of old fashioned niceness!!!!!...........All the best.............


Core pretty well described it.

there will always be dog eat dogism.
but its better than socialism, which in theory sounds absolutly great,
but it a sin filled world its not possible.

no thanks to slavery.

[kay-gee]

Both are misnomers actually. Russia was a blatantly communist country fashioned on the political ideologies of Karl Marx. Hitler was a totalatarist fascist. Nazi party used socialist in their name to soft sell their real agenda. They were no more concerned with the well being of mankind than flying a kite. I seriously dont think Hilary Clinton falls into these categories. With her at the helm and congress chock full of Dems, just imagine the possabilities. Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Holland are some examples of true socialist democracies that work. No one can deny the well being and prosperity of these places. Ain,t a whole lot of them running away to live in other countries. Emmigration is mostly from impoverished and/or tyrannically governed countries. ....All the best.........

[CoreIssue]

Both are misnomers actually. Russia was a blatantly communist country fashioned on the political ideologies of Karl Marx. Hitler was a totalatarist fascist. Nazi party used socialist in their name to soft sell their real agenda. They were no more concerned with the well being of mankind than flying a kite. I seriously dont think Hilary Clinton falls into these categories. With her at the helm and congress chock full of Dems, just imagine the possabilities. Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Holland are some examples of true socialist democracies that work. No one can deny the well being and prosperity of these places. Ain,t a whole lot of them running away to live in other countries. Emmigration is mostly from impoverished and/or tyrannically governed countries. ....All the best.........
No. They are not Socialist democracies. They are Welfare States.

You need to get your terms correct.

[kay-gee]

One more thing....Excuse me, but there dosen't seem to be a whole lotta room for God in America either!!!!!

[CoreIssue]

One more thing....Excuse me, but there dosen't seem to be a whole lotta room for God in America either!!!!!
Well, I agree with that.

But that doesn't change the fact that Socialist and Welfare States are worse.

There is more religious freedom in the US than Canada, in example, for sure.

[kay-gee]

But not as much as here in the Bahamas. Government here opens all sorts of events with public prayer including the legislature. Most folks attend a church of some kind and discussions about faith are not taboo! Most schools are operated by churches. Face it, America is becoming a pagan society! All the best!

[CoreIssue]

But not as much as here in the Bahamas. Government here opens all sorts of events with public prayer including the legislature. Most folks attend a church of some kind and discussions about faith are not taboo! Most schools are operated by churches. Face it, America is becoming a pagan society! All the best!
I am not familar with the Bahamas, to that extent.

Being open is good. Discussion is good.

As long as it is fully open.

Yes, the US is becoming pagan. I cannot argue.

The terrifying part is that of the nations of the world, it is still has more real Christians than any other.

Just calling oneself Christian does not make them so. So many cults out there! :swoon:

We are in the End Times. Big time Apostacy, Israel restored, vast increase in knowledge and tons more.

As said, the generation that sees Israel restored will see the return of Christ.

That clock started ticking in 1948.

[kay-gee]

whaddup with Bill Clinton? Canadians are absolutely bonkers over him. Some time ago He did a book signing up in Toronto. The streets near the place were traffic snarled for hours. He seems to have that certain something. Gotta tell ya. Something about Hilary C. Ttotally attracts me. Maybe its the powerful woman aura. At any rate, I think shes the man for the job. All the best..................

[CoreIssue]

whaddup with Bill Clinton? Canadians are absolutely bonkers over him. Some time ago He did a book signing up in Toronto. The streets near the place were traffic snarled for hours. He seems to have that certain something. Gotta tell ya. Something about Hilary C. Ttotally attracts me. Maybe its the powerful woman aura. At any rate, I think shes the man for the job. All the best..................
The Clinton's are liars, responsible for a number of deaths, crooks and more.

Any Christian who know anything about the doesn't want them around.

They are sign of the times.

They see themselves as royalty.

By the way, if you have ever seen some of the films of Hitler in the crowds, they loved him. Women acted like that had an orgasm when the touched him.

Evil appeals to human nature. Good does not. The good are generally dispised or ignored.

[InTheWind]

Evil appeals to human nature. Good does not. The good are generally dispised or ignored


There`s a lotta truth in that. :nod:

[kay-gee]

I've heard of whitewater. Are those confirmed facts or heresay? I just can't envision Bill C. as evil. Theres a down-homeness to him. I think he knows just what a stupid thing he did and I think he has repented. How many presidents are still alive? curious. Do you have any idea how much $$ Bill C. commands to give speeches? Staying power uncanny among former presidents. All the best.........

[CoreIssue]

I've heard of whitewater. Are those confirmed facts or heresay? I just can't envision Bill C. as evil. Theres a down-homeness to him. I think he knows just what a stupid thing he did and I think he has repented. How many presidents are still alive? curious. Do you have any idea how much $$ Bill C. commands to give speeches? Staying power uncanny among former presidents. All the best.........
Yes. Confirmed.

Also dropped a couple of bucks in an investment that made huge profits, while the others took it on the nose.

Bill was charged with rape in the UK and barely got out of the country, when younger.

Also accused of rape by another woman, years later.

Turns out that when both cases came to light both involved biting. And the second woman knew physical details of him where he had to be nude to see.

People have conveniently died who were close to nailing them.

The death in the Park. Everyone knows the body was moved and his safe, in the White House, emptied on the same night.

And on and on.

They are dispicable people.

[InTheWind]

I've heard of whitewater. Are those confirmed facts or heresay? I just can't envision Bill C. as evil. Theres a down-homeness to him. I think he knows just what a stupid thing he did and I think he has repented. How many presidents are still alive? curious. Do you have any idea how much $$ Bill C. commands to give speeches? Staying power uncanny among former presidents. All the best.........

Now ya can see how easy people are going to be fooled by the Anti Christ, he`ll really be irresistible to many. :(

[kay-gee]

Will AC wear cool shades and play the saxophone at his inaugaration ball? All the best....

[CoreIssue]

Will AC wear cool shades and play the saxophone at his inaugaration ball? All the best....
Sorry, I do not find the AC or Clinton's humorous.

They are dangerous and evil.

[kay-gee]

Wow, Sorry! ATB..........

[CoreIssue]

Wow, Sorry! ATB..........
Don't worry about it. ;)

[kay-gee]

How come when the Clintons were literally at the reins of the free world for eight years, no big evil thing happened in America. It was probably the smoothest 8 years in modern history with the exception of maybe Reagan. There was more certainty in the economy than there is now. I realize of course that he didn't have 9/11 fall in His lap. All the best....

[CoreIssue]

How come when the Clintons were literally at the reins of the free world for eight years, no big evil thing happened in America. It was probably the smoothest 8 years in modern history with the exception of maybe Reagan. There was more certainty in the economy than there is now. I realize of course that he didn't have 9/11 fall in His lap. All the best....
OK. I worked intelligence in the service, so I know what I am talking about.

The Clinton's dismantled our intelligence agencies. Thus we were unable to see this coming.

The Chinese were allowed to steal nuclear technology from us. The Clinton's said they thought if all had the world would be safer. What idiots.

They did not watch the terror groups and such. They were allowed to form, arm, grow and position during the Clinton years.

Clinton enjoyed the victories of the Reagan years. He exploited them for his own glory.

Those that struck us had been doing their positioning and such during the Clinton years.

And the economy didn't prosper like you think under Clinton. We went into decline his second term with it really starting to hit home the 3rd year.

He raised hidden taxes on us. A lie saying he lowered tax impact.

He was offered Bin Laden. OFFERED and REFUSED to take him.

What seems good on the surfice often hides a shark below the surface.

Don't expect me to praise Bush. I won't.

I am not a Republican, I am an Independent.

[kay-gee]

So you were in the service. Awesome! Just exactly is the "independant" policy. Is that like what Ross Perot was?..........All the best..........

[CoreIssue]

So you were in the service. Awesome! Just exactly is the "independant" policy. Is that like what Ross Perot was?..........All the best..........
Perot! Yeeesh!

It isn't a party. It is a rejection of the current parties.

No financial support and vote for whom ever we see as best.

I am a Moral Conservative. Not what Republicans call conservative.

Fiscal conservative who recognizes the human element. Not the $ bottom line at all costs.

And not the Welfare state Dems, for sure. The Party of anythiing goes but God.

[kay-gee]

I recall Jimmy Carter as being a good old church going, Southern Christian, from your state too, I think. He was DEM right? What changed in their thinking from then till now? All the best.................

[Vladd44]

A Dem is not the answer. But neither is giving up freedom for safety.

Truth is nothing stops any of us from going to home depot and buying all the supplies we need to create a bomb. The only reason none of us are in the car going to home depot right now is because we are have no desire to do so.

Border patrol is a joke we should quit bothering with. As long as 95% of the cargo containers coming into this country are not inspected it really doesn't matter what we do at the border. The logistics of trying to have any real oversight on what comes in via ships in this country is simply unrealistic.

But I have to say, getting people scared enough to give up even their most basic ability to travel freely was a stroke of genius for them. Now we need passports to fly to Mexico and Canada, it wasnt that long ago you could fly inside the usa without even having ID. What's next? Travel Papers? Or perhaps searching grandmothers at the airport, oh wait, nevermind we already have that.

I would rather have a building get planed every few years than lose my liberties. Now we have less freedom and are still at risk. A motivated group of people willing to give up their lives in the pursuit of killing other people will not be stopped.

Welcome to the police state, just dont whine when your fear is the driving force they are using to get it. I would rather be free

[CoreIssue]

I recall Jimmy Carter as being a good old church going, Southern Christian, from your state too, I think. He was DEM right? What changed in their thinking from then till now? All the best.................
Liberal beliefs.

[kay-gee]

Vladd44, You pretty well nailed it!.........All the best......

[CoreIssue]

Actually, what Vlad said, on the border, in example, is surrender and signing the death warrant for the US.

The border can be closed. The government doesn't have to will to do it.

There are robotic guard systems that would make sure no one got across.

[kay-gee]

Why borders anyway? Aren't we supposed to be a Global village? We all need to become less insular and more open. Remember Free Trade. Robot guards! What kind of a world do you want to live in anyway! A computor system that somehow annihilates human beings for trying to cross a line in the sand seems barbaric to me and nothing Christ would endorse, I'm sure......All the best.........

[CoreIssue]

Why borders anyway? Aren't we supposed to be a Global village? We all need to become less insular and more open. Remember Free Trade. Robot guards! What kind of a world do you want to live in anyway! A computor system that somehow annihilates human beings for trying to cross a line in the sand seems barbaric to me and nothing Christ would endorse, I'm sure......All the best.........
Hello!

Look at Babel. What Man was doing there.

God said the One World nonsense was bad, then, and confused their language from one to many.

Then he dispersed the people and divided the land, in the time of Peleg, to even further divide the people of the world.

What is the goal of Satan and the AC? To gather the world into one empire under their rule.

Even Christ, in the MK, never makes the world one nation. The nations and their borders remain intact.

Globalism requires compromise, on everything, including religion.

Christians are enemies of that kind of compromise, thus the UN has past legislation declaring our beliefs genocide. Yep. Genocide.

It is illegal to believe you have the only path to God.

Mexico is RCC, overwhelmingly. Is that what you want?

France and other countries have made it illegal to promote or wear religious emblems.

Preachers have been tried and sentenced for saying homosexuality is a sin, from their pulpits.

You want to be united with that?

[CTZonEdit]

Really, its not going to be long now that we will live in a society where old fashioned values and conservative ways are going to be seen as imminent roadblocks to "progression" that need to be cleansed.

Where people that believe in the fairy tale worlds of religous tombs need to join the bandwagon of progressive forward thinking society or be dealt with accordingly.

The time is really short. If you are not putting all your faith in what the bible says you are in serious trouble morally and spiritually. You are setting yourself up for the greatest deception ever. Which is in all reality happening right now but many are too blind to see it.

Notice how liberals and liberal minded people are turning into the ones that will be most influenced by this deception?

[kay-gee]

Yeah but Gods kingdom knows no borders. No respecter of persons. There is neither Jew nor Greek, bond nor free. The other borders are strictly of the world and I am taught to not cling on to the things of the world. I fear noone RCC's included. This is the Christian age not the tower of Babel era.........All the best........

[Sid]

You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, One World Government.

[kay-gee]

And perhaps finally, we'll get some peace!......all the best.........

[CoreIssue]

Yeah but Gods kingdom knows no borders. No respecter of persons. There is neither Jew nor Greek, bond nor free. The other borders are strictly of the world and I am taught to not cling on to the things of the world. I fear noone RCC's included. This is the Christian age not the tower of Babel era.........All the best........
And yet God established borders and divided Man for this earthly reality.
And perhaps finally, we'll get some peace!......all the best.........
Christians will not exist in that world, if it came about and lasted.

But it won't. It cannot.

A world without any trace of God in it is dead world and will not be allowed by God.

[kay-gee]

I believe that America is looking down the barrel of a very good possibility of it's first ever in history, female president. that woman being in the person of Hillary R. Clinton. I know the neo-cons freak on the idea, but face it and get over it. It is a better than strong possibility. Plan ahead and brace for it.
The far reaching global implications of this unfathomable. We will enter an era of geo-politics, never seen before.
There reasons for me saying this. I predict:
1)People have had it with Bush, so they will take it on the GOP. Bush did well, in my opinion, considering the hand he was dealt! But that doesnt matter. The masses are swayed by ever increasing left leaning media, endorsed greatly by Hollywood. This is the era of sound bite politics. Average people don't really think things through. More guided by sentiment. They tend to just count the body bags.
2)Average americans are already feeling the pinch of economics. By Nov 2008 it will be really evident. People scream for change when their pocket-books suffer.
3)The Dems will rally the illegals to their side if need be for votes.
4)Hillary has had time in the public eye and shown to be a mover and shaker. The whole Monica L. scandal showed her as a stalwart. She stood through the whole thing. Most woman would have filed divorce and said happy trails! The public will view that as strength of character.
5)If GOP runs somebody that can be painted as a gun toting religious bigot, the media will have a feeding frenzy and will help Hillary.
With the houses so full of Dems, just imagine the power that this diva will wield (over the whole earth!)....
GOD BLESS AMERICA..............all the best...

[CoreIssue]

Hilary is a socialist. That alone eliminates here.

I understand that beig from Canada makes that less an issue for you.

But here, in the US, it is still a major problem in the majority of the country.

Not in New York or many New England states. But for sure in the South, Mid West and West.

[kay-gee]

Please understand. I am only making obrervations here, By no means an endorsement of Clinton. You know the old saying, be prepared for the worst. This is a very real possibility you Americans are facing. You have elected liberal Dem presidents before, in spite of South and mid-west etc... the voting public are not to be under-estimated for the reasons I mentioned. Political predicting is a pet hobby of mine and I surprise myself how many times I've been correct. But not always...Take heart!...........all the best....

[CoreIssue]

Please understand. I am only making obrervations here, By no means an endorsement of Clinton. You know the old saying, be prepared for the worst. This is a very real possibility you Americans are facing. You have elected liberal Dem presidents before, in spite of South and mid-west etc... the voting public are not to be under-estimated for the reasons I mentioned. Political predicting is a pet hobby of mine and I surprise myself how many times I've been correct. But not always...Take heart!...........all the best....
Never on the extreme of of Hilary before. Even Bill was to the right of her.

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Don't allow propaganda and mis-information keep you from seeing the good side of socially conscious democracy. (What you call socialism). Some parts of it are good. Look to the bright side or else 4 years of Hilary will be a miserable time for you. Maybe she'll open up the treasure chest and help the citizens of the country, instead of just filling the pockets of the rich war barons........all the best........

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Don't allow propaganda and mis-information keep you from seeing the good side of socially conscious democracy. (What you call socialism). Some parts of it are good. Look to the bright side or else 4 years of Hilary will be a miserable time for you. Maybe she'll open up the treasure chest and help the citizens of the country, instead of just filling the pockets of the rich war barons........all the best........
What a contradiction.

Socialism is not democracy, by definition.

Hilary believes in government dictating every aspect of your life.

You want they, you do it. We don't.

[kay-gee]

All a democracy is in essence, is a system that allows the public to elect its own government. All the the rest of a persons life is regulated in some way by the government. That is a fact of human life. For example: earn money= taxes. spend money=taxes
drive a car=regulation. school =regulation most recreational activities= regulation marriage= license. on and on but you get the idea. All forms of government are social to a degree. It's the idea of "needs of the many" and basic human security. The only other alternative is anarchy, which just isn't practical. A social democracy tries to shore up the ranks a bit. There are those who work hard and struggle in the global economy and need some help in order to maintain a reasonable life-style. Universal health care for example takes some of the burden off families. Esp. lower income and kids. I once thought as you did, believe me. I dismissed people as lazy and that, but I've matured intellectually enough to see it from the other angle. Much of what we base our opinions on are propaganda and fear...........all the best...

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No. Not all government is democracy.

China is, and the USSR were, socialist, not democracy. The Party rules.

There are other examples.

In a democracy the common folk can change the government direction by vote.

In a socialist nation the common folk can change the government direction by civil war.

A significant difference.

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Something got twisted around. I did not say all government were democracies. What I said in essence was that man being a social creature, needs to have social structure and order, thus governments. Basic infrastructure is generally just to difficult and expensive to be provided by individuals, so we select people to collect our money and make those things happen. The degree of difference lies in the accountability of those people at the top and how they spend the money. You can blow the wad on an army to protect yourself from threats real or perceived. So great. You're protected. Now what does that do for the minimum wage guy and family, with kid that develops MS or something. Obviously jobs like that don't provide much if any health insurance. I actually benefit from helping him through my taxes. One less desperate citizen is a productive citizen. How do I know his kid isn't gonna grow up and find the cure for MS or something. The way the fanatical right seems to view utopia is, Let the insurance barons get richer and all the other war barons etc. Screw every body else. Where is the heart of Christ in that?!!!! all the best...........

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Socialists are the fanatical left.

They know better than anyone else and want to assume control of ever aspect of life.

In your paradise of Canada, in example, there are procedures and stuff not even allowed because the government deemed them too expensive.

There are huge waits in time form any procedures, because the system doesn't work, being government controlled. And health services are rationed.

In Brittain, if you are over 65 and need many types of transplants and surgeries, you don't get them, because you are 'too old.'

Don't paint socialism as as Utopia. It isn't.

And that is why many are forced to come to the US for many procedures. They cannot get them, or get them in time, in their countries.

Thus it costs them even more.

But that is increasingly against the law to do there. Come home and get arrested for doing it.

Nothing is perfect. Don't neglect the negatives of the system you are praising.

I am fully aware of the negatives here.

[kay-gee]

You must remember, that in both of our countries, we are fed a lot of negative propaganda about each other. Nonsense and lies, a lot of it. We are told that in America, people actual die in the emergency waiting area and the hospital door-step because their Master-Card wont go through, and they don't have proper insurance coverage. Folks losing their homes and children out in the street because some one in the family had a car accident! Now I'm a rational thinking guy, as I know you are. I don't buy it in the slightest. But it scares enough of the unintelligent masses, that they keep returning the same Liberal candidates to power. Don't think for a moment it isn't the same for you, in some of what you hear about us and our system. Common sense will tell you that the status quo will always want to be maintained by the folks with the most to gain. For us, the government. For you the medical/Pharmaceutical establishment and insurance companies. In the end it boils down to greed for power or money, or both.......all the best....

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You must remember, that in both of our countries, we are fed a lot of negative propaganda about each other. Nonsense and lies, a lot of it. We are told that in America, people actual die in the emergency waiting area and the hospital door-step because their Master-Card wont go through, and they don't have proper insurance coverage. Folks losing their homes and children out in the street because some one in the family had a car accident! Now I'm a rational thinking guy, as I know you are. I don't buy it in the slightest. But it scares enough of the unintelligent masses, that they keep returning the same Liberal candidates to power. Don't think for a moment it isn't the same for you, in some of what you hear about us and our system. Common sense will tell you that the status quo will always want to be maintained by the folks with the most to gain. For us, the government. For you the medical/Pharmaceutical establishment and insurance companies. In the end it boils down to greed for power or money, or both.......all the best....
Well, being able to pay can be a big problem at times. I will not deny that.

But, having come from up north, I know very well a lot of Canadians, needing medical services, do come across the border because of the time delays in Canada or outright lack of certain advanced procedures.

So, yes, there are exagerations. Not going to deny that.

But they are based on grains of truth.

Really, your system is not 'free.' Your tax structure is staggering compared to ours.

And any time the government controls such things as medical, it will lack. Just because the government is in control.

Not saying our system is perfect. It isn't. Not by any chance.

There is no perfect answer. But, to me, a free market system, with some safety net features is best.

All safety net is a disaster. Too little is also a disaster.

[kay-gee]

Agree! all the best........