sil and mil

[Jessie]

I wondered if they might be possessed. (from the other thread)

the reason for this is,
they are heavily into wof.
strange things happen around my mil. I call it cursing people.
shes mean.
very uncomfortable to be around. she used to be called "stone face"
no emotion in the face by others that did'nt even know her.
she put my dh's ex bil who is a meth addict in the pulpit of their church.
knowing full well what he was, ect. :swoon:
so thoughtless it was cruel. braggart also over dumb stuff.

but sil is a druggie. she has what I call a "white light" over her.
which is that she can do anything, she could kill someone and people would still think
shes the greatest thing that ever walked the earth. I MEAN THAT LITERALLY.
people dont or cant use discernment around her. (reminds you of what hitler had)
we prayed it would leave it did but returned.
there is a evil look in her eyes at times. I mean evil. could be high at that time too.

some is just flesh the other stuff that is out of the ordinary is what makes me wonder.

[eahaddix]

:idea: Jessie, would you consider posting pictures of your mother-in-law and sister-in-law?

If you do, then this would be most helpful. If you do not, then that would be cool too.

[Jessie]

I cant. sorry.

[eahaddix]

I wondered if they might be possessed. (from the other thread)

the reason for this is,
they are heavily into wof.
strange things happen around my mil. I call it cursing people.
shes mean.
very uncomfortable to be around. she used to be called "stone face"
no emotion in the face by others that did'nt even know her.
she put my dh's ex bil who is a meth addict in the pulpit of their church.
knowing full well what he was, ect. :swoon:
so thoughtless it was cruel. braggart also over dumb stuff.

but sil is a druggie. she has what I call a "white light" over her.
which is that she can do anything, she could kill someone and people would still think
shes the greatest thing that ever walked the earth. I MEAN THAT LITERALLY.
people dont or cant use discernment around her. (reminds you of what hitler had)
we prayed it would leave it did but returned.
there is a evil look in her eyes at times. I mean evil. could be high at that time too.

some is just flesh the other stuff that is out of the ordinary is what makes me wonder.

Well, in order to examine the situation, we need a standard to compare your sister-in-law and mother-in-law against.

Elohiym (http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=0430) searches our hearts and minds[1]. Pursuant to this focus, the essence of our faith is the concrete change of the heart and the mind, as expressed by repentance[2] and regeneration[3][4]. And, according to this central focus of the faith, we observe that Biblical Scripture sets down three essential signs of a true believer:
(1) a Godly sorrow for one's sins[5],
(2) a wholehearted belief in Christ Jesus as one's God and Savior[6], and,
(3) a Spirit-led[7] compulsion to serve Christ Jesus with proactive good works[8], obedience to his commands[9], and abstinence from one's old sinful habits[10].

Now, based on this criteria, do you believe that your mother-in-law and/or sister-in-law are saved?

Without the protective[11] indwelling of God the Spirit[12], one is vulnerable to possession and could be possessed. The psychological symptoms of demon-possession are hallmarked with pseudo-schizophrenia, such as in the sudden transformation of a calm and reasonable person into a wrathful, manipulative, and/or smirky personality. However, other signs of demon-possession can include:
(1) unexplained personal alarm over one's personal state.
(2) an unhealthy form of personal passiveness.
(3) an intense need for internal personal fulfillment with the companionship of others.
(4) an eerie personal blankness.
(5) personal mental disorientation and/or trouble perceiving reality.
(6) lively nightmares and/or sudden dark visions.
(7) any unexplained phenomena, such as getting spontaneous knowledge, receiving arbitrary "revelation," and manifesting enhanced physical abilities.

The physiological symptoms of demon-possession are more obvious. When a demon manifests, demon-possessed people have glassy and dilated eyes, very minimal and efficient body motion, and use crisp physical mannerisms or acts to intimidate others. Demons speak solely for the purpose of psychological attacks or general disinformation, except when expressing personal amusement.

Now, based on this criteria, do you believe that your mother-in-law and/or sister-in-law are possessed?

Footnotes:
[1] Jeremiah 11:20 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2011:20;&version=31;), Jeremiah 17:10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2017:10;&version=31;), Jeremiah 20:12 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2020:12;&version=31;).
[2] 2 Corinthians 7:9-11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%207:9-11;&version=31;), [i.e. Acts 11:18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2011:18;&version=31;)], Acts 26:1, 20 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2026:1,%2020;&version=31;), 2 Timothy 2:19 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%202:19;&version=31;), Mark 1:14-15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%201:14-15;&version=31;), ref. Isaiah 45:22 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2045:22;&version=31;).
[3] Titus 3:5 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus%203:5;&version=31;), John 3:3-8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:3-8;&version=31;), John 1:12-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201:12-13;&version=31;), 2 Corinthians 5:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%205:17;&version=31;), cross ref. Romans 12:2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2012:2;&version=31;), Ephesians 4:22-24 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%204:22-24;&version=31;), Colossians 3:5-10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%203:5-10;&version=31;), Galatians 5:16-26 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%205:16-26;&version=31;).
[4] Upon entry into the New Covenant, God the Spirit writes the Law on the believer's heart and mind (Hebrews 8:7-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%208:7-13;&version=31;), Hebrews 10:12-17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2010:12-17;&version=31;)) and begins convicting believers about righteousness (John 16:7-11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2016:7-11;&version=31;)).
[5] 2 Corinthians 7:9-11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%207:9-11;&version=31;).
[6] Romans 10:9-10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2010:9-10;&version=31;).
[7] Romans 8:9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208:9;&version=31;).
[8] James 2:14-26 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:14-26;&version=31;) [cross ref. Ephesians 2:10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:10;&version=31;)], i.e. 1 Corinthians 12:7 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2012:7;&version=31;).
[9] John 14:15, 21, 23-24 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014:15,%2021,%2023-24;&version=31;), 1 John 2:3-6 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%202:3-6;&version=31;).
[10] 1 John 3:3, 6, 9-10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%203:3,%206,%209-10;&version=31;).
[11] 1 John 4:1, 4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%204:1,%204;&version=31;), 1 John 3:18 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%203:18;&version=31;), 2 Thessalonians 3:3 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Thessalonians%203:3;&version=31;).
[12] John 14:16-17, 23 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014:16-17,%2023;&version=31;), Romans 8:9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208:9;&version=31;), 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%203:16-17;&version=31;), 1 Corinthians 6:19 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206:19;&version=31;), Ephesians 2:19-22 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:19-22;&version=31;).

[eahaddix]

:news: Bump.

With all due respect, Jessie, you started this thread. So, I would appreciate an answer.

[Jessie]

I did'nt see your post I'm sorry!

on the standard they say #2. the others I never saw. (first set you posted)

could you explain 1-4? just so I'm understanding them correctly on the second set of criteria?

I see apathy in mil. everything is for blood and blood only.
loads of talk with NO action.

in reading #3 on the second set. I have a question, how does that differ from
needing the companionship of others with the ability to set alone at times?

I just needed a bit more indepth understanding on those to accuratly answer you!

[Jessie]

bump

[CoreIssue]

While I would never disagree one can be demon possessed, you have to be very careful here.

That list equally applies to drug abusers, many deep into sin and people with no self discipline.

So, unless the are manifesting something that cannot be human caused, it is very hard to determine what is really going on.

Pictures can help. Person presence is even better.

But at this point in time there is no way to make a statement either way.