keny Threads Locked

[CoreIssue]

All of keny's threads are locked until this question is answer. Posting anywhere else, not answering or giving some dodge answer and preaching more means banning.

CTZ is not a platform for your preaching.

Here is the question, keny.

How does one test your declarations for truth, since you reject a literal reading of the Bible?

No long windy answer. No supposed verses here. Just one nice concise sentence saying how are we to test your declaration, as the Bible commands us to do?

[keny]

All of keny's threads are locked until this question is answer. Posting anywhere else, not answering or giving some dodge answer and preaching more means banning.

CTZ is not a platform for your preaching.

Here is the question, keny.

How does one test your declarations for truth, since you reject a literal reading of the Bible?

No long windy answer. No supposed verses here. Just one nice concise sentence saying how are we to test your declaration, as the Bible commands us to do?

Hello Core.

You can check out what I say against what Jesus taught and did in his life. Is what I am sharing the same "spirit" as Jesus witnessed and taught as the Father in him.

IN passing, I do not say that the bible can not be read literally, what I say is that the words mean very different things to MANY different people. What is in the heart is what comes out of the mouth.

I use the scriptures, literally. What you find is that the meaning I give to the words of the scriptures are often differnt. For instance, the words that say "a burning fire" or a "consuming fire", are the LOVE OF GOD. You see it {I think} as a fire like we have in the fireplaces in the houses. But the words I use follow the scripture it is just differnt than your physicalization of the scripturres. Core, we know that the beast coming out of the water with a woman on it's head is not a literal happening but it is a parable picture.

Also, one can pray about what is said, not about who is saying it.

I don't know if this is adequate for you or not. If not, let me know please what is required more.

God bless, keny

[CoreIssue]

That is not an aswer, but semantical game playing.

Define the EXACT way we test your claims using the Bible? Sure isn't by using a dictionary and reading by grammar.

Add here you posted elsewhere when I saiid not to. I deleted it.

You don't seem to be taking this issue very seriously. Or are trying to string it out.

[CoreIssue]

keny, it is amazing how you are like other cults that come on here. You feel you can do and say what you want anytime you want and rules do not apply.

I told you not to post anymore until this issue was resolved. You kept posting and I deleted them.

I told you to give me a straight answer and you didn't. Enough is enough.

:bye:

[eahaddix]

keny, it is amazing how you are like other cults that come on here. You feel you can do and say what you want anytime you want and rules do not apply.

I told you not to post anymore until this issue was resolved. You kept posting and I deleted them.

I told you to give me a straight answer and you didn't. Enough is enough.

:bye:

Well, even though I wanted to "reach" keny, I believe that your actions are a just reward for his actions. His head is "in the clouds" to the point that he simply does not read, consider, or debate against opposing viewpoints at all. In fact, his messages reflect an insulting attitude of superiority, under which he does nothing except "counsel" you with his "unquestionable" personal revelation. Yet, despite this, you showed great patience with his posting methodology.

"I am sorry that you went to all that trouble to find scriptures that you feel support whatever it is you believe." [Source] (http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showpost.php?p=16601&postcount=9)

:whistlin: "Whatever it is you believe?" Well, I regret the fact that you do not care about the viewpoints of others. So, have a good trip, "guru keny." Go be an "ascended master of spirituality" somewhere else.

I will be responding to your posts, even though you are banned. Your posts deserve to be shredded, so others, perhaps even you, will be edified.

1 Corinthians 10:5 [NIV] (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2010:5;&version=31;)
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.

[CoreIssue]

Thanks.

And indeed there is a lot to point out in his posts as to how dangerous such thinking is to the Word of God.

[MHz]

So how long is keny gone?

[CoreIssue]

So how long is keny gone?
Permanently unless I get an email offering a major change in what he was doing here.

Preaching isn't allowed. And he would not give a method to test his declarations beyond 'pray over it.'

[MHz]

Are you curious as to why I would ask about keny?

As I understand it keny is banned forever for not answering a question that was put forward to him. Correct?
This is violation of rules agree to to be able to post here'

http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1923

"Which does not mean telling everyone what they have to believe why refusing to answer questions. No one is above the need to answer challenges."

I assume 'why' should be 'while'.

Would you like me to post all the times I have asked you and CTZonEdit to answer this question.

In keeping with good grammar, does a passage (Genesis 1 in particular) start with what can be called a topic sentence, like in this very simple example.
http://www.tustin.k12.ca.us/cyberseminar/paragraph.htm

Consider what you remember about paragraphs!

Paragraphs have three parts: like a present

The box is like a topic sentence. The topic sentence "holds" the detail sentences

The detail sentences tell the reader information about the topic. Our topic is "apples" so each detail sentence should tell the reader more information about apples.

1.Detail sentence
2.Detail Sentence
3.Detail Sentence
Add more detail sentences as needed

I don't think we have a topic sentence yet, do you? "Apples come in different colors." seems more like a detail sentence to me. A topic sentence should introduce the entire paragraph to the reader.

1. Apples come in different colors.
2. Apples grow on trees.
3. You can eat an apple.
4. I ate an apple pie.
5. Sometimes an apple has a worm in it.

How about this:

Let me tell you what I know about apples.

That seems like a better topic sentence, doesn't it?

Topic Sentence Let me tell you what I know about apples.
Detail Sentence Apples come in different colors.
Detail Sentence Apples grow on trees.
Detail Sentence You can eat an apple.
Detail Sentence I ate an apple pie.
Detail Sentence Sometimes an apple has a worm in it.
Conclusion or Closing Sentence

Do your rules apply to you two?
Is this verse a topic sentence?
Ge:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Obviously you shouldn't be banned from your own site, but I can certainly ban myself from here.

[CoreIssue]

MHz, you have had every question answered mutliple times. You just don't like the answers.

It is an answer to point out you misdefine words and interject meanings that are not in the passage. It is an answer to tell you that your jumping off topic to other verses and not dealing with the grammar and context of a passage.

And you have never ever given us anything other justification for you doing that except, 'you believe' and that is how you do it.

Never have you given any rules of grammar, historical source or any such thing justify our rules for reading. You just believe they are right.

But at least you do make some effort to deal with it. keny didn't.

[MHz]

Then you can point me to the post in which you answered that question, and the one that CTZonEdit answered it.

[CoreIssue]

Do your rules apply to you two?
Is this verse a topic sentence?
Ge:1:1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Obviously you shouldn't be banned from your own site, but I can certainly ban myself from here.

How about if I just answser you here. Then you can copy the answer there and deal with it there. Not here.

Yes, we abide by the rules. And that rule is used for those who repeatedly will not reply. If you think it means any one instance then you are not understanding it. Or that we don't answer, then you are not reading.

No, it is not a topic sentence for all of Genesis. Genesis begins with beginnings and moves on to ancient history. A segment only.

Yes, you were answered, several times. You were told to go to the Pre-Adamic Thread were the grammar, word definitions and supporting verses were all laid out.

You replied by stating the Thread was not worthy of comment. And thus I said discussion over, since you didn't want to deal with the answer and reply to it.

YOU didn't answer. So YOUR problem.

Again, if you don't like the answer you act as if none were given.

So, to compare us to keny is false, totally.

You want to continue along this line, go to the Pre-Adamic and deal with the definitions, grammar and such laid out there. Don't expect us to reenter all that data in another thread.

And don't think anyone must deal with verses and word meanings, as you do, until you can give support, historically or Biblically, for your method of defining words and grammatical readings.

We have the norms of grammar and word meaning that have been used since language existed. You have...?

And before you state other verses, I repeat, you cannot use other verses to change the word meanings of other verses or their grammatical context. Other verses are just that. Other verses, not part of the ones you try to force them upon.