Masterbation...

[Will_00]

I came to this forum because i need help... I want to know if when you masterbate thinking of sex is wrong... can you help? Is this lust?

[CoreIssue]

That is a big bad tough one.

We have sex drives. Our automatic reaction to a sexy person, is sexual.

Stimulation natural draws us to the opposite sex, thus we think of them.

Here is what the Bible says that is to the point and relevent to the issue.

Matthew 5
27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mat%205&version=31#fen-NIV-23262e)] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

This does not say if you do it when masterbating. It says just look lustfully.

So, who can escape committing this sin?

I cannot remember the exact place, but on one issue the son was frustrated, agitated and masterbating. The father said this isn't good, he needs a wife.

Not that the act was a sin. But that man was meant to be with woman for the proper fulfillment of the purposes of sex.

I think those give a proper frame for where the Bible is coming from. That being the act is not a sin, in and of itself, but it is not good since marriage is where sex is intended to take place. And it is a sin if lust for a person one is not married enters the mind, masterbating or not.

Hope that helps.

[Jessie]

what happens when they are married, have sex all the time, but
still "continuously" do it?

[CTZonEdit]

Core summed it up nicely.

Short answer is that thinking lustful thoughts or of sexual immorality is, of course, lust.
Lust starts in the mind.

The act itself is not sin but can lead to sin which is why sex is best left for marriage.

The real big bad question is: Is it possible to masturbate without lusting?

And if so does that mean its OK? :swoon:

[CoreIssue]

what happens when they are married, have sex all the time, but
still "continuously" do it?
But does all the time mean as the spouse defines enough sex, or as the one wanting it sees the amout of sex being had?

I have heard of many setting quotas per their determination of 'enough.' I believe the one setting the quota is at fault unless there is mighty good other reasons.

[CoreIssue]

The real big bad question is: Is it possible to masturbate without lusting?

And if so does that mean its OK? :swoon:
Theortically, I would say one can just rely on enough physical stimulation, without any mental, which would make it not sinful.

But, I don't find it probable.

[CTZonEdit]

what happens when they are married, have sex all the time, but
still "continuously" do it?

I guess one would have to know the underlying reasons.

Does the couple communicate about this openly as to why this is occurring?

I suspect one member could have such a high sex drive and it be ok if they are honestly communicating about this. But if one is hiding or doing in secret then there may other underlying issues going on.

Another question that might be posed is what if one partner in marriage is thinking of the other partner while masturbating? Is that lustful since they are married?

[Jessie]

it would be to the physical detriment of the woman.
I think thats good reason. no hiding or secret as CTZ said.

so either lust or high sex drive?

[Will_00]

So what your saying is that if you are masterbating and are thinking of someone you like (for examle) and having sex with them then that is lust??

[CoreIssue]

So what your saying is that if you are masterbating and are thinking of someone you like (for examle) and having sex with them then that is lust??
Yes. The Bible says it is.