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Sid
10-18-2006, 07:58 PM
Are we really ready for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House?



On desks around the West Wing sit digital clocks counting down the days and hours left in the Bush presidency, reminders to the White House staff to use the time left as effectively as possible. As of 8 a.m. today, those clocks will read 825 days, four hours. But if the elections go the way pollsters and pundits predict, they might as well read 20 days.

Emboldened by victory, and bitter from grievance, Democrats could use their ascendance to block Bush's agenda, force him to respond to theirs and begin a new era of aggressive oversight and investigation. A Democratic victory, analysts in both parties said, could mean that some of Bush's tax cuts would not be renewed, attempts to revive his Social Security investment plan would be doomed and efforts to further broaden national security powers in the face of civil liberties concerns would be thwarted.


Most worrisome to the White House is the subpoena power that Democrats would gain with a majority in the House or Senate. For years, Republicans have been mostly deferential in scrutinizing the Bush administration, but Democrats are eager to reexamine an array of issues, such as Vice President Cheney's energy task force, the Jack Abramoff scandal and preparations for the Iraq war.




Elections May Leave Bush An Early Lame Duck (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/17/AR2006101701586.html)

Sid
10-18-2006, 08:02 PM
If the Republicans loose a net of six senators, or a net of 15 congressmen. . .

. . . the face of American politics will seriously change.




White House political strategist Karl Rove yesterday confidently predicted that the Republican Party would hold the House and the Senate in next month's elections, dismissing fallout from the sex scandal involving former Rep. Mark Foley

President Bush has begun to paint this year's election as a choice between strength and weakness on national security -- and the stark differences will show Americans the true nature of Democrats, Mr. Rove said.

"It is useful to remind people what [Democrats] said and what they do. I think they have given us here, especially in the last couple of weeks, a potent set of votes to talk about. You had 90 percent of House Democrats voting against the terrorist-surveillance program, nearly three-quarters of Senate Democrats and 80 percent of House Democrats voting against the terrorist-interrogation act. Something is fundamentally flawed."



Rove foresees GOP victory (http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061018-123042-6508r.htm)

CoreIssue
10-18-2006, 09:56 PM
:not: My problem is I am totally disgusted with both parties.

The Republicans have caused a lot of damage to a lot of people. Problem is the Democrats have caused a lot more.

I will vote Rep., but I will do so seeing it as a loose/loose proposition.

Sid
10-19-2006, 02:08 PM
:not: My problem is I am totally disgusted with both parties.

The Republicans have caused a lot of damage to a lot of people. Problem is the Democrats have caused a lot more.

I will vote Rep., but I will do so seeing it as a loose/loose proposition.



A net of 15 seats will give us Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House [third inline for presidency]

. . . if that isn't a scary enough scenario, I can't think of any.



Election 2006 Latest Polls (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/latestpolls/)

Sid
10-19-2006, 03:09 PM
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CoreIssue
10-19-2006, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreIssue http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=15284#post15284)
:not: My problem is I am totally disgusted with both parties.

The Republicans have caused a lot of damage to a lot of people. Problem is the Democrats have caused a lot more.

I will vote Rep., but I will do so seeing it as a loose/loose proposition.



A net of 15 seats will give us Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House [third inline for presidency]

. . . if that isn't a scary enough scenario, I can't think of any.

Indeed that is scary.

But don't expect me to sing the praises of the Republicans. They have hurt a ton of people in many ways.

But I have less use for the Democratric agenda. The old lesser of two evils.

Sid
10-20-2006, 10:00 AM
But don't expect me to sing the praises of the Republicans. They have hurt a ton of people in many ways.

But I have less use for the Democratric agenda. The old lesser of two evils.


Isn't it amazing that Democrats have to pretend to be moderates to get elected?

. . . they have no vision except to get elected.




With few notable exceptions, this campaign cycle once again focuses chiefly on the issues of importance to conservative America. And this pattern has remained unchanged for more than the past two decades.

Outside of the Terror War, in which the GOP still holds a commanding advantage, the two biggest issues on the minds of the general public are congressional pork barrel spending and immigration. Here, the Republican majority has unfortunately left the door open to justifiable criticism, except that those doing the criticizing are inarguably in favor of an agenda that is much worse for the nation.

In order for liberal Democrats to win outside of Vermont and California, they must successfully create the impression that they are anything but liberal Democrats.


Elections Are Still About Conservatism (http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=19463)

CoreIssue
10-20-2006, 11:23 AM
I disagree on one point. That being not Pork Barrell spending, but jobs and economy, as in the exporting of jobs and imports.

Sid
10-20-2006, 05:05 PM
Want a Democratic Congress to confirm Justice Steven's successor?



Stevens became a member of the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit in 1970. In later 1975, Gerald Ford nominated Stevens to the Court after the retirement of William O. Douglas.


Supreme Court Justices: John Paul Stevens (1920- ) (http://www.michaelariens.com/ConLaw/justices/stevens.htm)

Sid
10-21-2006, 05:24 PM
If the Democrats win the House, 'Speaker' Polosi Is Just The Beginning of The Train Wreck:



Now imagine for an instant Alcee Hastings as chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Here is a man who was appointed to the federal bench by Jimmy Carter in 1979, and whose outright corruption was so egregious that his own party saw fit to impeach him ten years later.

Judge Hastings was one of just six federal judges since the beginning of the Republic to be impeached by Congress and removed from office by the United States Senate.

After his impeachment and removal from office in 1989 – on charges of corruption and perjury – Hastings did not retreat in a corner. He did not beg forgiveness. He made no public display of repentence.

On the contrary. Judge Hastings played the Jesse Jackson race card. He was a victim. He had been wronged – not the people of Florida, to whom he had lied and from whom he had stolen (such is the meaning of perjury and corruption, after all).

In November 1992, Hastings ran successfully in the newly-created 23rd district of Florida, an overwhelmingly Democrat district created by the Florida legislature after the 1990 census as a safe Democratic seat.

Since then, Hastings has been re-elected with comfortable margins every two years. His official biography makes no mention of the untidy fact of his impeachment and removal as a federal judge. I guess he figures it’s not something potential voters in Broward and Palm Beach County need to know.

And that’s just for starters.



'Speaker' Polosi Is Just The Beginning of The Train Wreck (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25006)

Sid
10-24-2006, 01:46 PM
The pro-life movement has a real foe this election year. One of the reasons that this upcoming election is far more important than a presidential election is the fact that so many unborn babies' lives are at risk afterwards. Ever since the dreadful Roe V. Wade decision, millions of babies have died because of it. Over 47 million to be exact.

The far left and a majority of Democrats refer to the simple murder of unborn children as "the right of a woman to choose". That expression has dire consequences and what the mainstream media doesn't often tell, if at all, is the fact that many women regret their abortion years later and suffer from depression and anxiety because of it.

I pray that these pro-choicers will not gain control of the Senate and Congress in November because the culture of death will only be promoted even further. I pray that we can install a leadership that values the life of the unborn rather than seeing profits from aborted baby parts. You can make this happen. On election day, you can cast your vote for life or you can cast your vote for death. Please choose wisely!



Election 2006 and Abortion (http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=19573)

CoreIssue
10-24-2006, 06:20 PM
I fear they will. So many who call themselves conservative Rep. are pro-choice, stem cell and all the rest of that garbage.

My point being it does not take the Dems to win for that to become reality.

Sid
10-25-2006, 07:47 PM
The article is long, but really thought-provoking:



We read warnings every day about what will happen to our country if the Democrats win in this election, but no scenario is as completely terrifying as this one presented by FSM Contributing Editor Ray Kraft. What makes it so terrifying is that the author shows it is not only a real possibility, but a probability, that Americans under the Democrats will be taken down this deadly and nightmarish path.


DECEMBER 7, 2008: What Can Happen if the Democrats Get Their Way (http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/challenges.php?id=356499)
By Raymond S. Kraft

Sid
10-28-2006, 06:24 PM
Even the most "moderate" Democrat politicians in America today are ready to retreat from Iraq – essentially raise the white flag of surrender, sue for peace and demonstrate to the world, once again, that the U.S. is an unreliable ally in the cause of freedom.

Not one of these so-called leaders aspires to an American victory over our jihadist enemies. Think about that. The enemy is not Osama bin Laden or his al-Qaida proxies in Iraq. The enemy to these power-hungry egomaniacs is George W. Bush or Rumsfeld. They truly act as if these men are a greater menace to freedom and America's security than are our enemies.

Finishing the job has been a problem for the U.S. in all of its recent wars, since World War II. And it has been a problem largely because of opposition from the Dhimmicrats and those who think like them.

There will be nothing but misery for us in a world dominated by the jihadists. As the grandson of Dhimmis who fled that life in the Middle East, I have no desire to see my children subjected to that life.

The only way to prevent it from coming, however, is victory – not through "honorable retreat," not through diplomacy, not through negotiations with homicidal maniacs, not through "listening to our allies."

I may not have a dog in this hunt Nov. 7. But I want to make it clear to everyone that votes for Dhimmicrats represent defeat, dishonor, disgrace and Dhimmitude.



Meet the Dhimmicrats (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52609)

Sid
10-31-2006, 12:29 PM
My Democratic friends are counting up the number of seats they're going to win in the election: 16, 20, 35, 50. I hate to disappoint them, but the Republicans will win in the sense that they will not lose. Democratic overconfidence, as American as cherry pie, happens every election year along about now.

The Republicans will win because they are tough and the Democrats are weak. The average American does not care a hoot about the Bill of Rights, privacy or torture. Quite the contrary. Typical Americans are afraid of terrorists. How could they not be with the cliche "war on terror" heard constantly in the media and from the president every day?

The Democrats will snipe at one another after the election, exchanging blame for one more loss. Why didn't they run a vigorous campaign -- on such matters as health care, college education, the decline of the middle class? The answer is they did, but no one heard them. The three simple words ''war on terror'' drown out everything else. We knew that six months ago. All else was Democratic wishful thinking.

And young American men and women continue to die in Iraq.



Will Republicans lose control of Congress? (http://www.agreeley.com/articles/101306.html)

Sid
10-31-2006, 11:46 PM
Experts say the Bush administration will face a number of challenges if the Democrats take over Congress in next week's U.S. mid-term elections.

Current and former government officials predict Congress will take a more active role in U.S. foreign policy and other issues if Democrats prevail on Nov. 7, The Washington Times reported Monday.


"You're going to have much more legislative oomph, and (Congress is) going to be much more active on a whole range of issues," said Kurt Campbell, who served under the Clinton administration as a top Pentagon and National Security Council aide and now directs international security programs at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.


"It won't be, 'Oh, that's fine; you go about your business in Iran and just let us know how it's going,' or, 'Tell us about North Korea when you're done with the negotiations,'" he said.

Some Republicans have claimed a Democrat-led Congress would bog down the administration's efforts in the war on terrorism with oversight hearings and investigations into past events.


"I think Americans would prefer our generals to be fighting terrorists as opposed to fighting subpoenas," Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman said.



Clashes predicted if Dems take congress (http://www.gopusa.com/news/2006/october/1031_dems_congress.shtml)

Sid
11-02-2006, 01:41 PM
One issue should trump all others for conservatives: judges. As Manuel Miranda of Third Branch writes in Human Events:


If the GOP loses the Senate, precedent shows that more than 60 Bush judicial nominees will never get a Judiciary Committee hearing under the chairmanship of Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). Republicans will be unable to stop a filibuster of a next Supreme Court nominee and countless circuit court picks. This will dwarf Democrats' past six years of obstruction.


Liberals have used the courts for decades to bypass the public will and impose a secular agenda on the country. If they win control of the Senate, their current leadership will be emboldened to continue that practice. Any judge who manages to make it onto the bench will most likely be of the judicial philosophy of Anthony Kennedy and David Souter. Republican presidents named both men because they thought it would be easier to win the approval of Senate Democrats. Neither turned out to be conservative, despite the White House sales job to conservative groups.

Do you prefer liberal judges reading their prejudices into the Constitution and increasingly depriving us of our right to decide our own future? Then vote for Democrats.

If not, conservatives should vote Republican and then work to continue advancing conservative goals. Those goals are more likely to be reached under Republicans than under Democrats.

That's the choice this year, a choice that will be made whether one votes, or cuts and runs out of a false notion that Republicans need to be punished for not doing more. As the vice president said, "What do you want?"



The 2006 Choice (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/11/the_2006_choice.html)

wvpeach1963
11-06-2006, 02:06 AM
Sid if you don't mind me asking? Why are you so upset by abortion yet totally ignoring the fact that fertility clinics toss embryos by the hundreds of thousands into bio hazard trash cans yearly? Aren't you upset as badly by the fertility clinics? and if not mind if I ask why?

And FYI this little christian gal will be voting for mostly Democrats this election. In a attempt to put some checks and balances back in the goverment.
With only Republicans in control President Bush has once again shown that absolute power corrupts. Its a bad thing that we are only left with the two choices Democrats or Republicans . It seems we are safer when neither party is in total control to me.
Thus I will be voting Democrat this election

The pro-life movement has a real foe this election year. One of the reasons that this upcoming election is far more important than a presidential election is the fact that so many unborn babies' lives are at risk afterwards. Ever since the dreadful Roe V. Wade decision, millions of babies have died because of it. Over 47 million to be exact.

The far left and a majority of Democrats refer to the simple murder of unborn children as "the right of a woman to choose". That expression has dire consequences and what the mainstream media doesn't often tell, if at all, is the fact that many women regret their abortion years later and suffer from depression and anxiety because of it.

I pray that these pro-choicers will not gain control of the Senate and Congress in November because the culture of death will only be promoted even further. I pray that we can install a leadership that values the life of the unborn rather than seeing profits from aborted baby parts. You can make this happen. On election day, you can cast your vote for life or you can cast your vote for death. Please choose wisely!



Election 2006 and Abortion (http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=19573)

Sid
11-06-2006, 10:15 AM
Aren't you upset as badly by the fertility clinics? and if not mind if I ask why?


The motive of fertility clinics is life, there is no moral equivalence to abortion clinics.



And FYI this little christian gal will be voting for mostly Democrats this election. In a attempt to put some checks and balances back in the goverment.



And you will be joined by those who advocate abortion on demand, homosexual marriage, gun control, open borders and cut 'n run in Iraq.

. . . a motley crew indeed.

wvpeach1963
11-06-2006, 12:39 PM
But sid they in your view are creating life . Yet statistics show that well over 400,000 embryos are discarded as bio hazard in this country alone each year. Imagine what numbers they must dicard every year world wide. It doesn't bother you that so many embryos , millions are thrown away yearly from fetility clinics given your veiws?

The motive of fertility clinics is life, there is no moral equivalence to abortion clinics.






And you will be joined by those who advocate abortion on demand, homosexual marriage, gun control, open borders and cut 'n run in Iraq.

. . . a motley crew indeed.

I belive through much study and prayer that God sends the soul to inhabit the flesh at the moment of Birth , just as the soul leaves the flesh at the moment of death.
So abortion is a non issue with me. I believe its just lumps of flesh you all fight over. God only deals with the souls . I assure you God is not allowing millions of souls to be aborted or frozen in fertility clinics around this world.
Marriage is what a society makes of it sid. In this country its a piece of paper and the goverments blessing. Christians in other country's need no such piece of paper. While the bible is clear that homosexuality is wrong. It is also clear that God sees one sin as bad as any other. Homosexuals have been written about in the bible proving they have always been around and will never dissapear. God will judge them , not I

Gun control is another non issue. I and my husband have concealed carry permits .
In this neck of the woods guns are plentiful and easily purchased. The local flea market has two regular old gentlemen that fill a pick up truck bed with a camper top every weekend with guns for sale, take your pick. Besides in a predominately christian nation such as ours we all know how the world will end , and we all know we will need our guns for one thing or another when that time comes. They will never be able to take the American peoples guns . I repeat Never . But they can make ammo hard to get so its prudent to have some stocked.

It does seem as if both the Democrats and Republicans are determined to leave our borders open. But with Bush as the leader and pushing for the guest worker program he wants , I hardly think you can lay all the blame for that on the Democrats.

I havn't heard the Democrats say they want to cut and run from Iraq. All I have heard them say about Iraq I mostly support. They want to set timeline goals for the Iraq goverment and stick to them. They seem to favor redeploying the troops to neighboring countries in case they have to go back in to stop a civil war.
And with veterans like Jack Murtha backing that plan , a man who served his country honorably and really cares about the soldiers I say its wortn a shot.
Besides we need to stop spending billions a month in that Rat hole Iraq , that no matter how many billions we spend will always remain a rat hole.

CoreIssue
11-06-2006, 12:46 PM
I oppose fertility clinics as well. Once an egg is fertilized it is a human.

I don't see how a Christian can vote Democratic. While the Republicans have tons of problems, the Democrats have a blatant hatred for Christianity and what the Bible teaches.

No one can tell me a party that is openly pro-abortion, gay rights, anti-Ten Commandments and all the other stuff is better than the Republicans, as a whole.

The Dems do not represent checks and balances. They represent legislating for the Judicial Bench.

Voting for people who openly advocate policies and laws in direct violation of the Bible is an anti-Christian vote, to me.

The Republicans are not too conservative. Many have become too liberal and others too big business.

As a note, the Dems have more rich folk and those doing trade with China, in office, than do Republicans. Both Parties are hurting us. The Dems and liberal doing the most harm.

wvpeach1963
11-06-2006, 10:02 PM
Ah but then core issue the bible tells us that all goverments of men are corrupt .
I disagree with you assessment of voting democratic as they are also the party that believes in helping people after they are born.

Voting however is really just a lost cause. A bad habit I havn't been able to break for some reason yet. Many denominations don't believe in being a soldier or voting and I understand thier reasoning.

Politics really is the domain of Satan

InTheWind
11-06-2006, 10:09 PM
Many denominations don't believe in being a soldier or voting and I understand thier reasoning


If there wasn`t any brave soldiers i doubt we would be having the freedom we do.
The only denominations that don`t believe in soldiers fighting are cults imo. :(

wvpeach1963
11-06-2006, 10:47 PM
Okay wind , show me one place where our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ doesn't condem fighting and killing for a christian?

wvpeach1963
11-06-2006, 10:48 PM
The Prince of peace as a war monger. I eagerly await seeing that post.

CoreIssue
11-06-2006, 11:21 PM
Hmmm. Try the Book of Revelation. 2/3 of the world's population die by God's will.

Second Coming Christ slaughters the armies of the AC.

Christ says the soldier does not bear his sword in vain.

OT God killed everyone but Noah and his immediate family.

He sent Israel to slaughter those in the Promised Land.

Christ is God incarnate. That makes him part of the OT issues.

Enough war and blood shed for you at the hands of Second Person of the Trinity?

CoreIssue
11-06-2006, 11:26 PM
Ah but then core issue the bible tells us that all goverments of men are corrupt .
I disagree with you assessment of voting democratic as they are also the party that believes in helping people after they are born.

Voting however is really just a lost cause. A bad habit I havn't been able to break for some reason yet. Many denominations don't believe in being a soldier or voting and I understand thier reasoning.

Politics really is the domain of Satan
But it is okay to kill millions before they are born. Right?

It is okay for illegals to come over and rape, kill and commit crimes because they are a voting block?

OK to push God and the Bible out of the public domain?

Yea, even though I don't like the Republican Party, I can still see many good reasons to not vote Democrat.

Your thinking is a big reason our government is in the condition it is now.

Oh, yea. If all bad then why is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit governing?

CoreIssue
11-06-2006, 11:27 PM
We strongly disagree. But I hope you are seeing no one is stopping you from doing so! :tiphat: