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Sid
10-18-2006, 12:50 PM
Gun Control: The Vatican's and the UN's Positions Identical




Observer to the United Nations, Archbishop Celestino Migliore, who is working to promote the UN’s anti-gun owner program. Praising “the promotion of disarmament,” he endorsed “the efforts made by the open-ended Working Group to negotiate an international instrument to enable states to identify and trace, in a timely and reliable manner, illicit small arms and light weapons.” The clear objective of these negotiations is to place small arms and light weapons under UN government control.

The third insult, and the one with which we are most directly concerned here, is a collection to be taken up this weekend in Catholic churches throughout the United States to support Vatican activities. And so the Catholic bishops in the United States are asking American Catholics, including millions of Catholic gun owners, to support an entity whose official UN representative works to undermine the rights we Catholics and other American citizens enjoy as recognized by the U.S. Constitution!

We understand this initiative not as an attack on the Church, but rather as a protest of a terribly misguided secular political initiative undertaken by a Vatican agency and at the very least implicitly supported by equally misguided American bishops.



More . . . (http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=8453)

CoreIssue
10-18-2006, 11:04 PM
Siince when did the RCC care about rights and such, except when it suits their purposes?

Sid
10-18-2006, 11:28 PM
Siince when did the RCC care about rights and such, except when it suits their purposes?


That is the RCC's only agenda: the power of the clerical class.

Sid
10-23-2006, 10:12 AM
The Vatican expressed strong support for an international treaty to regulate the sale of conventional weapons, saying light arms and small-caliber weapons have been used to harm millions of people in recent decades.

Conventional weapons are an element in every civil conflict and constitute “one of the most common instruments in most violations of human rights and disrespect for international law,” said a Vatican statement released Oct. 10.

The statement, issued by the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, came as the United Nations was debating a proposal by seven countries to take steps toward a legally binding agreement on the import, export and exchange of conventional weapons.

“Indiscriminate sale or transfer of conventional weapons is an inseparable part of problems connected with international terrorism, illegal trafficking of precious or strategic resources, and the most abject manifestations of organized crime such as trafficking of human beings or drugs,” it said.

The Vatican statement argued that weapons cannot be considered as just another commodity to be bought and sold on global markets.

“Their possession, production and trade have deep ethical and social implications, and they must be regulated by paying due attention to specific principles of the moral and legal order,” it said.




Vatican gives support to proposal regulating import, export and exchange of weapons (http://www.archlou.org/therecord/nationalinternationalnews/article14183c238880.htm)

CoreIssue
10-23-2006, 12:11 PM
Anyone ask these idiots if it was peaceful before guns were invented?

What was the weapons of choice before guns? Hmmm, that would be arrows, javelin, knives and swords.

Take those away and it is clubs and rocks.

What these clowns want is for a return to the old days when only the army, under government control, could have guns.

Wasn't that exactly why we have gun rights? To stop the government from becoming oppressive due to threat of armed citizens?

Sid
11-09-2006, 02:28 PM
What these clowns want is for a return to the old days when only the army, under government control, could have guns.

Wasn't that exactly why we have gun rights? To stop the government from becoming oppressive due to threat of armed citizens?



By calling attention to a well-regulated militia for the security of the Nation, and the right of each citizen to keep and bear arms, our Founding Fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy.

Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny, which gave rise to the second amendment, will ever be a major danger to our Nation, the amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic military-civilian relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of the country.

For that reason I believe the second amendment will always be important.


--John F. Kennedy

CoreIssue
11-09-2006, 09:09 PM
Agree.

But more than defense against an oppressive nation, defense against illegal aliens and criminals who threaten our homes and families. The very core building blocks of our nation.