baptism

[roman8]

I have been getting different veiws from people on whether or not I need to be baptized.

I grew up Anglican and was baptized and confirmed as a child, but people have been telling me that I need to be baptized again as an adult.

Then others say that there is no need for that , that when you accept Christ you are baptized by the Holy Spirit.

And then others make a point of saying that even Jesus was baptized .

My church doesnt even offer adult baptism. So I figured it wasnt something I needed to do.

I think Im going to change my user name to ( confused):help:

[KRISSY]

There are no biblical reference that I can get a hold of that says we must baptize 'x' amount of time. When you accept Christ you have THE HOLY SPIRIT and speaking in tongues is the baptismal of THE HOLY SPIRIT. I'll caution you though to speak with an elder of a church, it's always good to get varying opinions but! There's one PERSON you must consult thats THE CREATOR. Hope i've helped in some way. Dont change your user name

[CoreIssue]

I have been getting different veiws from people on whether or not I need to be baptized.

I grew up Anglican and was baptized and confirmed as a child, but people have been telling me that I need to be baptized again as an adult.
In the Biblical sense, being baptized as a small child is not baptism. Baptized into a denomination is not the same as the baptism representing, symbolically, our union with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection.

There is no absolute 'need' to be baptized. It is an act of sanctification that one 'should' do.

I, for one, do not hinge my evaluation of a Christian on when, where and how they were baptized, or not. I don't even ask.
Then others say that there is no need for that , that when you accept Christ you are baptized by the Holy Spirit.
But it is an act of sanctification that we are told we 'should' do.

Yet, in that, understand it is one of the initial things one should do. Not something way down the road.
And then others make a point of saying that even Jesus was baptized .
And as he said, he did it because he should. Not because he had to.
My church doesnt even offer adult baptism. So I figured it wasnt something I needed to do.
There is no such thing as valid infant baptism. Sorry, just is not Biblical.

And indeed, some churches do not even offer it. But many do not understand there is absolutely no requirement a preacher does it. ANY elder male can do it.
I think Im going to change my user name to ( confused):help:
You are not alone. ;)

[CoreIssue]

There are no biblical reference that I can get a hold of that says we must baptize 'x' amount of time.
Agree. No must, but should. And once done once, it is done, unless not valid in meaning the first time.
When you accept Christ you have THE HOLY SPIRIT
Yep.
and speaking in tongues is the baptismal of THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Sorry, but that is not correct.

When one repents the Holy Spirit entering into them IS the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Absolutely no tongues required. Not Biblical.

1 Corinthians 12
12The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For we were all baptized by[c (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2012&version=31#fen-NIV-28632c)] one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.

We enter the Body of Christ upon repentence. We enter via the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Everyone in the Body of Christ has a Gift of the Spirit. No waiting required. No exception.
7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2012&version=31#fen-NIV-28629a)] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20cor%2012&version=31#fen-NIV-28629b)] 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines.
You might find this topic (http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1951&highlight=tongues) of interest.
I'll caution you though to speak with an elder of a church, it's always good to get varying opinions but! There's one PERSON you must consult thats THE CREATOR. Hope i've helped in some way. Dont change your user name
Many opinions, backed with Bible, are good.

[roman8]

You guys and gals are awesome . so what you are saying is its a choice. I think I have a need to be baptized, Im going to check it out .

Thanks:nod:

[JCbeliever17]

There is nothing in the Bible that says we must be baptized.
Jesus used baptisum to physically show people what the Holy Sprit does when you become a believer. (Cleans your body.)

My grandmother and me have also had this discussion. She believes you have to be baptized to go to Heavan, even if you are a believer.
So i challenged her with..."what happens to little babies that die and have not got a change to believe or be baptized."

I believe you do NOT have to be baptized. It was a symbolic method of teaching that Jesus used.

If you want to be baptized, that is absoulty fine. But don't feel that you have to be.


Hope this helped!

[a.baker]

This is the scripture I have found about water and baptizing. John 3:5-8, John 4:13-14, John 1:24-27 Now some Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, "Why then do you baptize if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?"
"I baptize with water, " John replied, "but among you stands one you do not know. He is the one who comes after me, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie."
With the last one John is refering to Jesus who is going to come after him. Now with the last one I take it that since Jesus has come we no longer need to baptize with water. Jesus is the water that will baptize us. Jesus speaks so often of giving the water we need to be saved and to quench our thirst. I have also found in the bible, but I can't find it now, that it says we need to be baptized with water and the Holy Spirit. I assume the water is Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit. So when it comes to water water and having a pastor perform a baptism I would assume it isn't something as a Christian you have to do.

[Jessie]

for me I believe baptism was a matter of obiedence to do.
and showing I belong to Him.

it was to me the putting of of the flesh and putting on the HS. or the things of the HS.
not something taken lightly.

is it a matter of salvation no.

as core said, santification.

[PΩštCǾđĖ]

Conduct a very careful survey of Baptism in the New Testament.

When exactly does it take place? What happens prior to it taking place? It takes place after accepting Christ. It's a decision someone has to make and as a child it is a decision one is unable to make. Baptism must be made after a decision to come to Christ as one's Savior.

What is it? I believe, and help me here on this if I am wrong and/or misunderstood, a public confession (per se) of an individuals allegiance to Christ. Its a persons public allegiance to Him.

[CoreIssue]

I like the phrase:

It is a public declaration of the change within the spirit of a person. Symbolic of entering the grave with Christ and resurrecting with him.

[PΩštCǾđĖ]

Symbolic. That's the word I was looking for.

[a.baker]

I agree that its a public confession.

[roman8]

I am to be baptized the morning of Nov 25 , I made the decision a week ago to follow in obedience to Gods word . Ever since I have done this I am filled with guilt for past sins , doubting my salvation and anger towards God . I dont know why this is happening, I ask for your prayers .

[a.baker]

:pray: Roman8, I was reading something very true this morning and made me think. The closer we get to God the harder Satan tries to pull us away and get our mind set off of Him. Maybe this is a trick from Satan. Or maybe there are things resurfacing you have forgotten about and never taken care of. Only you know what this could be about. I am praying for you sister! :hug:

[Jessie]

I am to be baptized the morning of Nov 25 , I made the decision a week ago to follow in obedience to Gods word . Ever since I have done this I am filled with guilt for past sins , doubting my salvation and anger towards God . I dont know why this is happening, I ask for your prayers .

no doubt satan will not like this....

praying you continue in obiedence to His word.

:pray:

[John Beckett]

Jesus used baptisum to physically show people
what the Holy Sprit does when you become a believer.
(Cleans your body.)


Well, He may have been physically showing more than
just the cleansing of the body, because He may have
also been Showing that the Holy Spirit Descends Upon
us once we have been Baptized.

Although that wouldn't make sense either, now that
i think about it, because Scripture Shows that we do
NOT receive the Holy Spirit after being Baptized, unless
it is right there that we also ask Him Into our hearts.


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