Christians Living in a World Circling the Drain

[Sid]

[Disclaimer: The linked site deals with many controversial and uncomfortable issues, I don't pretend to endorse everything there. . . .]


My worst day camping is better than my best day in civilization.

. . . civilization is so over-rated.





This isn't about storing silver coins or canned food or getting an AK-47.

It's about saving your soul not your skin. It's about the tendency to obsess on the New World Order, get depressed and become unbearable.

The situation is depressing. A satanic cult controls the credit of the world and rules through myriad proxies. It is determined to destroy civilization and institute an Orwellian police state.

You spend hours every day addictively watching for new developments. Your face is pressed up against the store window of the world.

You are "externalized." You can't go into the kitchen without switching on the radio.

You try to squeeze your sustenance from the world. But much of what you imbibe is poisonous: depravity, corruption, duplicity and tragedy. (Is that the point of the mass media? To demoralize and brutalize?)

Mankind is in the grip of a diabolical force that constantly strives to legitimize itself through deception. You can't overcome this demon. But you still control your personal life. Ultimately, the battle is for the soul of humanity. Why not begin by defending your soul?

This means erecting a wall between the soul, and the world, and establishing a balance between the sacred and the profane. You need to shut out the world (the profane) for set periods of time and focus on what inspires you. That means turning off the TV, Internet and media in general.

Just as you nourish your body with food, you feed your soul with thoughts, sights and sounds. Your soul reaches out for beauty, grace, harmony, truth and goodness. You become what you think about.


What lifts your spirit?


It might be a long walk, nature, music, hobby, sport, or music. It might be time with your family or friends. It might be the Bible, religious writing or meditation.

"Do what you love," Henry David Thoreau said. "Know your own bone; gnaw at it, bury it, unearth it, and gnaw at it still."

You agree with the mystics who say happiness is within. It involves the possession of your soul, and not wanting anything else. By looking outside your self, you displace your soul and become the thing you want. This is the source of addictive behavior and unhappiness.

The occult elite controls us with sex and money- the North-South of the mind. The courtship stage is a period when sexual feelings are strong so two people will bond and start a family. Sex/romance was not meant to become a permanent preoccupation and panacea. The cult uses it to distract and degrade us while it creates a police state (using the "War on Terror" as a ruse.)

The same is true of money. The stock market is a giant casino addicting millions. The central banking cult has unlimited funds. To make us feel good, (while it trashes civil rights and wages senseless war) it makes the market go up. To fleece us, it crashes the market. Don't be a puppet.

The diabolical powers have been here for a long time. You have discovered their existence only because they signaled the beginning of their endgame on Sept. 11.

Don't let them stunt or degrade you by obsessing on their iniquity. Restore balance by attuning yourself to the things you love. Be an outpost of happiness.



Surviving the New World Order (www.savethemales.ca/001374.html)


Go to the link for comments, some are pure gold.

[Sid]

Here is another link that gives some serious food for thought.

I am not really sure about the rest of the site, never quite figured out where they are coming from.

BUT this is right on:




Frequently I see writers exposing the Secret Powers that cause so much misery in the world, and they put their finger of blame on the Jesuits and think that they Vatican and the Pope are behind all the shenanigans and chaos in the world. Their thesis is interesting, but I have some problems with it, however.


Placing the blame for worldwide devastation at the foot of the Papacy is probably a disinformationist ploy.


When you obtain obscene wealth, you obtain obscene power. If you were immoral, unethical, and devious in obtaining wealth, you would probably be immoral, unethical, and devious in wielding power. You can own the universities, publishing industry, movie and TV industry, the military, government leaders, church leaders, judicial system.

In other words, you can create the entire matrix of delusion and slavery to illusions. The teachers will teach their disinformation in the schools, the professors and research scientists will promulgate the vision of society and the world to their students, the preachers, priests, and rabbis will preach their gospel to the congregations and synagogues.

Subtly, of course, so you might never guess the message was skewed to the benefit of the Secret Powers. You might be a Democrat but they own the left. You might be a Republican, but they own the right. You think you have a choice and expend a lot of energy deciding or convincing, but there is no real choice.



More. . . (http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/synagogue_of_satan.htm)

[Sid]

Here is another link that gives some serious food for thought.



This is a summary of a longer article that examines a real problem:




Christians and Conspiracy Theories: A CALL TO REPENTANCE





Conspiracy Theory appears to be the latest incarnation of the classic "tall tale" with a paranoid bent. By its very nature it cannot be completely disproved. But short of this, we can point out some serious problems.
Should Christians be involved in the promulgation of spurious theories as likely wrong as not and with such a dismal history of accuracy and veracity?
As a body of thinking conspiracy theory is inadequate as an explanation of what motivates international politics and business interests.
Generally lacking access to international business and political dealings, Conspiracy buffs claim to have "secret" inside information. By doing so, they ironically become the historic "Illuminati".
By focusing on crackpot ideas and utopian groups, bad ideas are given undue press and credibility by the very people who claim to be against them. It seems no one else is listening.
The fundamental premise of conspiracy theory is antithetical to Biblical revelation, if we are indeed near the end of the age.
In the carnal orientation of conspiracy theory, are we missing the nature of the open spiritual war being waged against us? Is there an enemy running rampant among us while we tell each other ghost stories?
The negative "fruit" of conspiracy theories is that it shifts the blame from our own failures as Christians in society to our opponents, fostering a further counterproductive "bunker mentality" of acquiescence--or worse still violent backlash.
Where conspiracy theory is wrong it is pure and simple slander, which is a sin. And who knows where to draw the line on slander: all of it, most of it, some of it?
The tendency of really effective conspiracy theories is to increase men's IDOLATRY of supposed superhuman brainiacs who run the universe, or the flip-side of this: promoting the FEAR OF MEN in general. Both results are specifically forbidden in scripture.
Some of the most hideous evil in human history has come as a result of letting slander, rumors, and lies go unchecked for too long.
A survey of recent Christian rumors with no regard for their veracity underscores the damage done by conspiracy theory to our mission as stewards of the gospel of truth.


LINK (http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire_sum.html)

[Sid]

Looking at the state of the world today, I am reminded about the frog in the kettle experiment:

. . . if you drop a frog into a pot of really hot water, it will immediately jump out.

BUT if you put a frog in cool water and gradually raise the temperature, you will have boiled frog.

For all those who are paying attention to current events, the water is really getting warm.





Spiritual Wimps


Our spiritual enemy is winning a terrific battle against us if he can short circuit our zeal and eliminate our influence via the fatalism of Conspiracy Theories. Rather that being salt and light in spreading the Gospel of peace, we hide our lamps under a table so that they will not notice us.

We bury our treasure in a bunker mentality of merely holding our own against the unassailable power of evil. With our consciences satisfied that the enemy is somehow cheating, we throw down our swords before the fight even starts.


The utility of Conspiracy Theory thus comes into focus:


• It shifts blame.

• It is a sophisticated excuse machine.


This is how Hitler used it; this is how Nero used it; this is how we are using it. Has there even been a Conspiracy Theory concocted short of this purpose?

What could be a more obvious ploy by our spiritual enemy to thwart the life of Christ in us?


The tragic thing is that this attack comes not from without, but principally from within the church. And our itching ears and guilty consciences cannot seem to get enough of it.


Have we fallen so far from being "conquerors in Christ" that we need a systematic philosophy of paranoia?

Is the life of Christ in us content to lay curled in fetal position in the corner reading another Conspiracy Theory book?

Are we content to be losers quaking in the fear of men--in direct disobedience to our Lord?




More. . . (http://www.acts17-11.com/conspire.html). . . hoping and praying for a pre-trib Rapture. . . .

[CoreIssue]

Looking at the state of the world today, I am reminded about the frog in the kettle experiment:

. . . if you drop a frog into a pot of really hot water, it will immediately jump out.

BUT if you put a frog in cool water and gradually raise the temperature, you will have boiled frog.

For all those who are paying attention to current events, the water is really getting warm.
Excellent comparison! :nod:

[Sid]

Looking at the state of the world today, I am reminded about the frog in the kettle experiment:

. . . if you drop a frog into a pot of really hot water, it will immediately jump out.

BUT if you put a frog in cool water and gradually raise the temperature, you will have boiled frog.

For all those who are paying attention to current events, the water is really getting warm.


The homosexual agenda tries to paint anyone who rejects their lifestyle as ignorant, bigoted and as depriving them of their civil rights.

. . . homosexuality must be rejected on Scriptural, medical and public health concerns.



ADVISORY: The link is not for the weak or timid.




Very simply, it seems, an objective person just looking at homosexuality's lifestyle consequences would have to classify it as some kind of pathology.


Does it or does it not lead to a dramatically shortened lifespan?


Studies say it does, some by as much as 40%; the Cameron study being only one of many other studies that suggest this.

Taken together, these studies establish that homosexuality is more deadly than smoking, alcoholism, or drug addiction. However, it appears that far too few physicians or other professionals are making arguments in favor of homosexuality as a diagnosis based on its adverse health consequences.

While doing research into the history of the 1973 decision to remove homosexuality from the diagnostic manual of disorders, I have been shocked to find out the specious reasoning upon which the decision was based, and that qualified physicians have allowed the decision to stand.


Why Isn't Homosexuality Considered A Disorder On The Basis Of Its Medical Consequences? (http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/nov/061130a.html)

[Jessie]

Sid, your getting good at posting stuff I've been thinking about the day before...

I was thinking about all of this and how I really needed to focus on the word of God,
that this other stuff was sidetracking me.

thanks!

maybe a confirment?

[Sid]

I was thinking about all of this and how I really needed to focus on the word of God, that this other stuff was sidetracking me.

thanks! maybe a confirment?



Jessie:


Here are a few forums at my homecourt [EZBoard, fixing to tank] that might really be of interest to you:


Combat Faith: Mature Topics not for the Weak or Timid (http://p105.ezboard.com/fxcatholicfrm33)


Christians Living in a World Circling the Drain (http://p105.ezboard.com/fxcatholicfrm31)


Bible Prophesy (http://p105.ezboard.com/fxcatholicfrm27)




I have been a student of the Bible and especially Bible prophesy for about 30 years now, and I truly believe that the time is short and we need to jumpstart the low-mileage brains among us.

Keep looking up . . .

[Jessie]

thanks sid, will check it out.

[kay-gee]

I like the opening of this thread. I like it a lot. There is much food for thought. the world is abrutally evil place. For the disciple of Christ it can be a little overwhelming and sometimes down right discouraging. But I beleive it's important to remember this: When hasn't the world been a brutally evil place. The answer: Pretty much from the get go! Put your sights on HIM as one would a rifle on a target. Don,t sweat the rest of it. Soon it will be over. HE will return or YOU will go to meet Him. Meanwhile set your mind on good things. (Phil 4:8)All the best.

[Sid]

Put your sights on HIM as one would a rifle on a target. Don,t sweat the rest of it. Soon it will be over. HE will return or YOU will go to meet Him. Meanwhile set your mind on good things. (Phil 4:8)All the best.


kay-gee:


It is so easy to get disheartened when one starts paying attention to the sorry state of affairs that this world is in.

. . . but these times have been foretold, and Christians who follow Bible Prophesy can see the 'why' behind so many current events.

The rest of the world is just bewildered or in denial.

[He's Real]

Kay Gee....I like the way you think. I'm just jealous of you in the Bahamas. :nod:

[kay-gee]

Hi Sid. Theres no doubt the old ships goin' down. But we can't all just stand around in the engine room, scratching our heads and looking at the hole. As professors of Christ, WE ARE THE LAST FRONTIER OF HOPE that this world has. Discouragement is Satans best weapon. I left a message on your thread about how we can effect the world for good. The thread entitled Bored? Please check it out and respond. I'm here for you! We're in this together! All the best.

[kay-gee]

Hello, HE'S REAL You're very kind. Please don't be jealous. I'm really just living out the culmination of a life-long dream of living somewhere other than the frozen desolate north. I happened to get once in a lifetime break that I couldn't refuse. I want to believe with all my heart that GOD allowed me this blessing. HE has also opened a difficult journey at the same time. The little congregation that I am trying to help build is rife with challenges. The sun is excruciatingly hot at this time of the day so I'm off to the beach for some THINKING time. Lets talk. All The Best!............

[He's Real]

I'm off to the beach for some THINKING time.

Ok Kay. Flaunt the wealth in front of the peasants.:roflmbo: Good for you. I love it when people get to enjoy God's blessings.

The little congregation that I am trying to help build is rife with challenges

I can relate. I'm working with teenagers. I love them to death and have been blessed with some great relationships with these kids but......ooohhhh! Some are a challenge to be kind. Oh well....just gotta keep loving them where they are. :D

[kay-gee]

A jolly good day to you HE'S REAL. That must be real rewarding to do what your doing with the teenagers. You may never realize the impact you are making on those young lives for years to come. keep up the good work. I'm thinking of shipping down from Canada some used hockey equipment and showing the local kids how to play road hockey or something. There is no ice around here (obviously). Maybe I can earn their rspect and lead some to the LORD. Just one of the things I was thinking about yesturday. (at the beach). On that subject I want to clear something up in case I have been mis-under stood. I don't generally go to public beaches (because of the strong lust factor) The beach in back of our place is practically uninhabited and makes a great place to go and be alone with ones thoughts. Also good exercise.Isn't OUR GOD AMAZING!? All the best.!!!

[Sid]

05:18 to help you put things in perspective:


Troubled Times, Troubled Minds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPbG3nhFCGY&mode=related&search=)

[kay-gee]

You must dwell on the good things of life or else you will live in despair. All the best...

[CoreIssue]

You must dwell on the good things of life or else you will live in despair. All the best...
How about dealing with reality?

Balance. All needs balance.

Blindness to what is bad is bad. Dwelling on bad is bad.

[kay-gee]

Lets suppose tonight that a perfect balance is represented by right and left as on a set of scales. On the left, I place Phillipians 4:7,8. Okay You put something on the right. Your choice would be....................? all the best........

[CoreIssue]

Lets suppose tonight that a perfect balance is represented by right and left as on a set of scales. On the left, I place Phillipians 4:7,8. Okay You put something on the right. Your choice would be....................? all the best........
That is focus on the spiritual realities of God and what is his.

The flip side is all the verses talking about the physical realities, such as do not cast your pearls before swine and the strong man defends his home.

One deals with the security and guarantees of eternal peace in Christ. The others on surviving in this world.

Still others talk about getting those locked in the physical realties to join us in the spiritual realities of God.

[kay-gee]

I think you're on the brink of something profound there but I am not quite getting it. Can you explain it another way? Thanks.......all the best.......

[CoreIssue]

Our focus is on eternity. That is our home, our goal and our desire.

But we live in this world, so we have realities to face here that are temporary, but necessary.

We must live in this world while living for eternity and God.

We must meet our physical needs while remembering spiritual needs are more important.

We have joy from the spiritual and woe from the physical.

So, we must recognize and defend ourselves from the realities of this world while trying to represent the eternal to those of this world, to bring them to join us in living for the eternal.

So, there is no contradiction in having internal peace and joy while having external concern and distrust.

Wisdom says love your enemy but don't give him your back while he holds a knife.

Balance. All is balance.

We are travelers, this world is a road. Our home is at the end, not along the way.

This world is not our home or family. But it is the place from which we can grow our family.

Love those in the world, but don't trust those in the world.

Reach out to the world, but make sure you don't get your fingers chopped off.

Be available but know when to be gone.

Balance.

A time for peace, a time for war. A time for love, a time for hate.

Balance.

[kay-gee]

Much better, thank-you!......all the best........