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Chrystalwuzhere
05-09-2006, 12:21 PM
This morning, I was watching the Today show before I left for work. Katie Couric said that Joel Osteen was going to be on this morning, and quoted Osteen as saying that if Jesus lived today, He wouldn't ride a donkey, He would ride a Jet instead. :(

I looked on the Internet to see if I could find anything on the interview they did with Osteen, and found this instead....(it happened back in December)....






(12/19/05 - KTRK/HOUSTON) - A dispute that involved the wife of Houston's most famous pastor, Joel Osteen, and a Continental Airlines flight attendant ended up delaying a flight for hours Monday. And now, Victoria Osteen's actions on that flight are in the spotlight.

The Osteens run the largest church in the nation, so passengers on a Continental flight were shocked Monday when Mrs. Osteen was removed from that flight after a disturbance.


Taking time off from the high profile hustle and bustle of running a mega-church, Lakewood Church Pastor Joel Osteen and his family boarded Continental flight 1602 Monday morning at Houston's big airport. They were bound for the slopes in Colorado.

Their trip was delayed and so was the entire flight by almost two hours. Fellow passengers blame the popular Osteens, specifically Joel's wife, Victoria.

According to passenger accounts, the Osteens were sitting in first class. Soon after the plane's door was closed, the FBI says Victoria Osteen was removed following what Continental would call only a disturbance. The Osteens' spokesman confirms it involved a flight attendant, but that's all. However, one passenger tells Eyewitness News she was alerted to the front of the plane when she heard a commotion.

"She violently ran towards the cockpit, scaring everyone around her," said passenger Knicky Van Slyke. "Everyone was terrified about what was going on. And a bunch of flight attendants ran up and had to restrain her. She was banging on the door."

"Of the cockpit?" we asked.

"Yes."

Passengers say Victoria was removed first. Joel and the children followed. Meantime, everyone waited.

"They unloaded all the luggage to get their luggage and deplaned her, Joel, and the kids," said passenger Dawn Dixon.

Passenger Chad Clay said, "They kept telling us they were waiting on some passengers to find their luggage underneath in the plane, and it was going to be delayed for looking for that luggage."

According to the Transportation Security Administration, federal air marshals were never involved. Local authorities also know nothing of this event. Continental would not discuss details.

The Osteens' spokesman denies a physical altercation, denies Victoria ever banged on the cockpit door, and says she left on her own.

"The account of the event which has come to our attention is inaccurate and overblown. The misunderstanding was minor and was resolved when Victoria voluntarily removed herself from the situation," read the statement.

The FBI says it was not voluntary. Though agents are not investigating, they will review the incident as the Osteens enjoy their Colorado vacation.

The Osteens' spokesman says they took another flight to Colorado Monday.

Nobody has been charged. As for the FBI's involvement, we're told it's standard procedure for them to review all passenger removal incidents. According to Continental, this one is a closed case.

Pastor Joel Osteen preaches to an average of 40,000 people a week at Lakewood Church services. Lakewood opened in the former home of the Rockets, Compaq Center, back in July. It took $90 million and a year and a half of renovations. Osteen's ministry is taped and aired around the world.

(Copyright © 2005, KTRK-TV)

Read article here (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=3741989).

Chrystalwuzhere
05-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Here's another article about it....

http://blogs.usatoday.com/sky/2005/12/the_wife_of_the.html

CoreIssue
05-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Does not suprise me at all. The 'Divas' and 'Princes' are above us peons.:not:

Chrystalwuzhere
05-09-2006, 03:13 PM
What Osteen said about Jesus riding a Leer Jet instead of a donkey bothers me. The reason why is because of the significance that the donkey has in God's word.

One of the reasons why is because in the days of David, Saul, Solomon, etc., the King in Israel was annointed and then rode on a donkey while the people cheered, etc. That's why Jesus found it necessary to ride upon one on the day of His triumphal entry, proclaiming Himself as Christ.... Messiah.

The donkey was significant for another reason...the Word of God said that in Zechariah 9:9 that He (Messiah) would enter lowly, riding on the foal of an ass. Not a leer jet.

There were vehicles of greater import during Jesus' day. There were chariots, for example. If Jesus was into luxury vehicles and materialism, He could've made His triumphal entry in a chariot of all things. Osteen speaks in great ignorance... the donkey was of prophetic significance... if He were wiser in the Word, he might know that.

Chrystalwuzhere
05-09-2006, 03:14 PM
Does not suprise me at all. The 'Divas' and 'Princes' are above us peons.:not:

:nod:

Doesn't seem that we're in the same social circles, does it?

I have a problem with charging ticket prices to get in to hear Osteen preach. If that's not acutely wrong, I don't know what is.

CoreIssue
05-09-2006, 03:44 PM
:nod:

Doesn't seem that we're in the same social circles, does it?

I have a problem with charging ticket prices to get in to hear Osteen preach. If that's not acutely wrong, I don't know what is.
No, we don't.

And yes, it is very wrong.:grr:

Jessie
05-09-2006, 08:59 PM
What Osteen said about Jesus riding a Leer Jet instead of a donkey bothers me. The reason why is because of the significance that the donkey has in God's word.

One of the reasons why is because in the days of David, Saul, Solomon, etc., the King in Israel was annointed and then rode on a donkey while the people cheered, etc. That's why Jesus found it necessary to ride upon one on the day of His triumphal entry, proclaiming Himself as Christ.... Messiah.

The donkey was significant for another reason...the Word of God said that in Zechariah 9:9 that He (Messiah) would enter lowly, riding on the foal of an ass. Not a leer jet.

There were vehicles of greater import during Jesus' day. There were chariots, for example. If Jesus was into luxury vehicles and materialism, He could've made His triumphal entry in a chariot of all things. Osteen speaks in great ignorance... the donkey was of prophetic significance... if He were wiser in the Word, he might know that.

people that spout off like that they dont have a clue as too what Jesus would do.
its easier for them to hop on a jet so Jesus must too.
I dont think so....
I think he'd do like it was supposed to be, what God the father wanted,
Jesus did'nt please himself.

BereanGal
09-11-2007, 10:48 AM
You know if Victoria really wanted to follow Jesus, she would have at least apologized for her behavior on the flight and "took the wrong" even if she felt she wasn't wrong. To me this was more bad fruit being exposed.

a.baker
09-11-2007, 04:59 PM
I think charging money to hear His Word would really anger God. It angers me. How dare that man ask for ticket money. Completely unbiblical!

BereanGal
09-12-2007, 10:32 AM
I think charging money to hear His Word would really anger God. It angers me. How dare that man ask for ticket money. Completely unbiblical!

I agree with you -- freely you have received, freely give. But to make matters worse, Joel Osteen lied about why he was charging money. He originally said he had to charge a fee because he had to have a ticketed event. But when Billly Graham would use MSG, no one charge him a per seat fee. Also, if you actually go to legitimate ticket vendors, you can't get a ticket for only $10 - it's way more than that (one vendor is selling them for between $22-$119).

He's a liar and deciever - a true wolf in sheep's clothing.