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Jessie
05-03-2006, 11:53 PM
this is a problem for many wemon. what is the submission to a husband by a wife?

what does it entail and where does it end?

seems far to many men control far too much to the point a woman is less than a child in some cases, and do much damage to the familys by many things willingly.

so what was God saying?

InTheWind
05-04-2006, 09:25 AM
These verses seem to explain it pretty well.

Spirit-Guided Relationships: Wives and Husbands
Ephhesians 5 :21-33
21 And further, you will submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22 You wives will submit to your husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For a husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of his body, the church; he gave his life to be her Savior. 24 As the church submits to Christ, so you wives must submit to your husbands in everything.
25 And you husbands must love your wives with the same love Christ showed the church. He gave up his life for her 26 to make her holy and clean, washed by baptism and God's word.* 27 He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or any other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault. 28 In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as they love their own bodies. For a man is actually loving himself when he loves his wife. 29 No one hates his own body but lovingly cares for it, just as Christ cares for his body, which is the church. 30 And we are his body.
31 As the Scriptures say, "A man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one."* 32 This is a great mystery, but it is an illustration of the way Christ and the church are one. 33 So again I say, each man must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Brandli5
05-04-2006, 11:00 AM
Inthewind is totally right. That is God's word.

We are to have a marriage with equal respect and equal honor. When the bible says woman are to submit and obey their husband it means that we are to do that, but the bible says also we are to marry a Christian man. He should not harm a woman.

IF we as women marry a man who is Christian and we both read the bible , pray and know what god wants for us then we will know what God wants for our marriage.

That is why it’s important to marry a Christian man. Some men who are not Christian’s abuse and belittle a woman because they think they can. What that man would fail to realize is that in the bible there is more written about marriage.

Equal partners in basically what the bible says, we just have different roles in many ways.

IntheWind put very good verses there.

Abuse is not acceptable in a marriage as far as God or anyone goes. God does not want woman to be abused, and does not want her to stay in that relationship.

Jessie
05-07-2006, 02:04 AM
I was curious as I have always taken a lot of abuse from whomever, and not standing up for myself. I'm not having problems now, but wondered just how far does God take this?

Brandli5
05-07-2006, 04:47 PM
I know God would not want any person to take abuse from someeone.

The way I understand it in my eyes is God tells us in the bible what and how, and who we are suppose to marry.

IF we listen to him before we are married, I believe God does hear and will help our marriges.

He tells us to marry someone with our same belifs. Prayer together really helps a house hold 10000000 more than non praying partners.

Also, God tells us that both husband and wife are to work together. A woman is to take care of a man, and the man is suppose to take care of the wife.

In Gods words we both have differnt duties to perform, such as woman taking care of children, house ect, A man taking care of working, money ect.

But God wants us to put Him first, Then our spouse, Then the kids, then other things.

Alot of times when people get married they do not take all this in mind, and it can lead to abuse, harsh marrige, ect.

God does not want this to happen, he does give us a chance to fix it all before we marry, but sometimes we do not listen.

If we find ourselves in a bad marrige, Yes, I do think God wants us to seek help. If one other the spouses will not seek help, or refuses to change, I do not think God would want a person to suffer and even suffer the children.


The bible says if a person cheats on you, that you can leave them. Yes, divorce is a sin other wise, but I truely think God would not blame a person if the abuse was bad enough, and it really was messing up the children and the other spouse.

I also know God forgives us from our sins, when we ask him.

There are so many places to find help. God is one of those places, let him and he will help.


I am glad your okay now.

I just wanted to tell you that I Just do not think God would want us to allow someone to hurt us. As so many people would want to believe.