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CTZonEdit
03-07-2006, 04:59 PM
Jeremiah 26:19 (New American Standard Bible)
19"Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not (A (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2026:19;&version=49;#cen-NASB-19592A))fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and (B (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2026:19;&version=49;#cen-NASB-19592B))the LORD changed His mind about the misfortune which He had pronounced against them? But we are (C (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2026:19;&version=49;#cen-NASB-19592C))committing a great evil against ourselves."
The Lord changed his mind?
Why would an all knowing God need to change his mind?
CoreIssue
03-07-2006, 10:50 PM
Strong's Number: 05162 Browse Lexicon (http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/browse.cgi?number=5162&version=kjv) Original WordWord Origin~xna primitive rootTransliterated WordTDNT (http://bible.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=05162&version=kjv#Legend) EntryNachamTWOT - 1344Phonetic SpellingParts of Speechnaw-kham' http://bible.crosswalk.com/images/audio.gif (http://bible.crosswalk.com/cgi-bin/lexicon.pl?id=5162h) Verb Definition
to be sorry, console oneself, repent, regret, comfort, be comforted
(Niphal)
to be sorry, be moved to pity, have compassion
to be sorry, rue, suffer grief, repent
to comfort oneself, be comforted
to comfort oneself, ease oneself
(Piel) to comfort, console
(Pual) to be comforted, be consoled
(Hithpael)
to be sorry, have compassion
to rue, repent of
to comfort oneself, be comforted
to ease oneself
As refers to the Father, he is all knowing.
As in reference to the Son? It would seem that in his identification with us he relinquished his all knowingness. At least for a period. He may now have been restored to the glory he had from the beginning. He will certainly be restored to the fullness in the end.
Just my thoughts.
But, in answer to your question. "Does God make mistakes?" No! He made you! That was no mistake.
CoreIssue
03-08-2006, 11:07 AM
As refers to the Father, he is all knowing.
As in reference to the Son? It would seem that in his identification with us he relinquished his all knowingness. At least for a period. He may now have been restored to the glory he had from the beginning. He will certainly be restored to the fullness in the end.
Just my thoughts.
But, in answer to your question. "Does God make mistakes?" No! He made you! That was no mistake.
Jeremiah is before the role and flesh of the Son existed. Or the role of the Father.
Christ existing before the incarnation? That is Pre-Incarnate flesh. Something Mormons and such believe in. And never said in the Bible.
As God, the Second Person is Son to no one. He is equally God with the Father and Holy Spirit. And set aside nothing in the OT.
Brandli5
03-08-2006, 03:09 PM
No,
God does not mistakes. Never has, never will.
IISamuel 22:31
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the lord is tried: he is a buckler to al them that trust in him. 32 for who is God save the lord? and who is a rock, save our God?
Psalms 19:7
THe law of the lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which in heaven is perfect.
Brandli5
03-08-2006, 03:15 PM
Another intresting thing I find about that verse, is that it was not out of the KJV. Not saying that bibles other than the KJV are wrong, but sometimes they can put another meaning there that is not. Here is that same verse But from the KJV.
Jermiah 26:19
Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him at all to death? Did he not fear the Lord and besought the Lord, and the Lord repented him of the evil which he had pronoucned against them? Thus might we procure great evil against our souls.
CoreIssue
03-08-2006, 04:36 PM
Another intresting thing I find about that verse, is that it was not out of the KJV. Not saying that bibles other than the KJV are wrong, but sometimes they can put another meaning there that is not. Here is that same verse But from the KJV.
Jermiah 26:19
Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him at all to death? Did he not fear the Lord and besought the Lord, and the Lord repented him of the evil which he had pronoucned against them? Thus might we procure great evil against our souls.
The KJV is loaded with errors, added words and even whole added verses. It is not as accurate as such as the NIV or NASB.
Both the KJV and the NASB say the same identical thing here. Just the NASB does not say it in a form of long dead English.
To repent of doing harm to someone is the change one's mind about doing it. Same thing.
And evil now does not mean what evil then meant. God does commit "evil" against anyone in today's usage of the Greek word. But he will commit harm and similar against someone.
Brandli5
03-08-2006, 08:11 PM
So,
Are you saying that the lord does make mistakes?? I have not ever heard such in my life. I pray that your wrong about this. I give my heart and life to Jesus christ. He is perfect in my eyes. He made this world, and the universe. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks he has one bone in his body that could commit something that is not correct. He is perfect, and the bible says so. No matter what a person who is not perfect says, God is and he knows that he sent his son, the perfect master, Lord of Lords to this earth.
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which in heaven is perfect.
If the bible was not 100% pure God's truth then why have church? Why be christain?? I fully do not understand what your talking about. Jesus is my life, the holy spirit is the clear and most perfect evidence of this to me. Do you really think that God himself would allow a bible or his word to followed for many many years and not be truth? How can this be, what basis of life do we have if not for what the bible says and the goodness of Jesus. If he is flawed, then what scum are we?? We must be going to die to hell for sure, if Jesus can make a mistake and go to heaven, then what are we?? WE we will surely die if what you say is truth. AHH, I hate to think about it one time. I fully disagree. Fully.
Jesus is the perfect son of God. He has, and never will commit a sin, or evil. Never. The bible is the word of God. No matter what some person says, that will never change. Ever.
Jesus knows everything, and he knew everything he would do, and is going to do. If the bible makes mistakes as you say, then that verse surely is one, and for that matter, its interperation sure is mis undestood here. Jesus does not harm anyone. He might punish, but he surely does not make mistakes on doing so.
CoreIssue
03-08-2006, 09:06 PM
No. I was commenting on what you said about the KJV. It was a statement that it is better than the others.
Nothing more.
Yes, it contains God's truths and messages. But no, it if not the best out there in total accuracy.
No. God does not make mistakes.:nosmiley:
Jessie
03-08-2006, 11:09 PM
Jeremiah 26:19 (New American Standard Bible)
19"Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not (A (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2026:19;&version=49;#cen-NASB-19592A))fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the LORD, and (B (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2026:19;&version=49;#cen-NASB-19592B))the LORD changed His mind about the misfortune which He had pronounced against them? But we are (C (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jer%2026:19;&version=49;#cen-NASB-19592C))committing a great evil against ourselves."
it says he feared the Lord and entreated the favor of the Lord.
God changing his mind was not a mistake. Its just part of a relationship.
everything is not set in stone, but when repentence came and the Lord was looked to,
it made a difference.
Jessie
03-08-2006, 11:11 PM
also, if God was going to do it, and not change his mind, whats the point of mercy,
asking for forgiveness, ect....? God has ears and listens.
CoreIssue
03-09-2006, 09:46 AM
also, if God was going to do it, and not change his mind, whats the point of mercy,
asking for forgiveness, ect....? God has ears and listens.
Exactly.
We have to understand the distinction of God dealing with what is at a time even knowing what will be.
God does not deal with us before we repent as if we are saved. He deals with us as sinners who need to repent.
Once saved then he deals with us differently. He has mercy on us and changes.
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