Trib - Nothing New!

[CoreIssue]

It is amazing how many people try to compare the Trib to now, history or such.

How can anyone read the event of the Trib and say there is nothing new there? That it will not be far more devastating and deadly than any other time in history?

Even with the Flood killing a higher percentage of humanity, they died quickly in comparison. 7 years versus days maximum.

2/3 of the earth's population die. The surface is ravaged. Cities and homes will be leveled. Mountains will collapse and islands sink.

Where does this ot so bad thinking come from?

[Brandli5]

Hmm,

If someone does not think the trib will be not so bad, they need to reread that part of the bible. The trib will be the worst ever happens here on earth. THe bible says even the angels in heaven will be effected ( I think the word was tremble).

The trib will be Gods wrath, and well for me, I am not going to stick around to see just how heavy his wrath is.

[TLIR]

As far as I know, my sins were bore away. So there is nothing for wrath to be poured out on.

[InTheWind]

As far as I know, my sins were bore away. So there is nothing for wrath to be poured out on.

Your body if it`s still here, glad ours won`t be. :yowza:

[Jessie]

Hmm,

If someone does not think the trib will be not so bad, they need to reread that part of the bible. The trib will be the worst ever happens here on earth. THe bible says even the angels in heaven will be effected ( I think the word was tremble).

The trib will be Gods wrath, and well for me, I am not going to stick around to see just how heavy his wrath is.

so many dont read their bibles, they just spout what they hear
and it seems they just dont want "fear" period...

I dont wanna stick around either! The misery would have to be sooooo
intense...

I dont know about the angels being effected, but it must be sad for them
to have to watch.

but yet knowing its almost over!!

I guess for some too its outta sight outta mind.
and caught up in the cares of this world.

[CoreIssue]

Glad the Church won't be here. Too bad those who enter in would not listen.

But still better to suffer in the Trib and be saved then end up in the Lake for eternity.:nod:

[Jessie]

excellent point, wished they would have listened beforehand. but indeed better to go thru that than eternity in hell.

[Chrystalwuzhere]

How can anyone read the event of the Trib and say there is nothing new there? That it will not be far more devastating and deadly than any other time in history?


People just don't have the ability to wrap their mind around the kind of devastation that will occur during the Trib. Think about it, humans are complacent minded. If it's not directly upon them, they lull themselves into a lazy slumber.

Think of the devastation of Katrina.... the tsunami.... it will be much worse, and it will be on a worldwide scale, and hitting one right after the other then. After the two above events, people were in awe, and shocked by the devastation... :tsk: They have no clue what's coming.

It's not gonna be pretty.

[Sid]

Think of the devastation of Katrina.... the tsunami.... it will be much worse, and it will be on a worldwide scale, and hitting one right after the other then. After the two above events, people were in awe, and shocked by the devastation... :tsk: They have no clue what's coming.

It's not gonna be pretty.


Think Mad Max in Afganistan. . . .

[Brandli5]

Who or what was mad max?

[CoreIssue]

A cop/ex-cop in Australia after a nuclear war where fuel, water and food are in short supply.;)

Not a nice place.

[Chrystalwuzhere]

Many people now would love a world without Christians. Well, when the Lord removes the church, they'll have a world without christians. Wheweee! They'll get what they wanted then.

Also, our Heavenly Father is not going to pour out wrath upon the body of His Son (us). He is going to pour it out upon the wicked who reject Him, and refuse to honor Him, and retain Him in their hearts and minds.

God destroyed the world with water, and removed the faithful before He did (Noah). God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and removed His faithful before He did (Lot). When He lets loose upon the earth this time, He will remove the faithful (the church).

As it was in the days of Noah...they ate, drank, gave in marriage, but God rescued Noah before the destruction.

As it was in the days of Lot...they ate, drank, gave in marriage, but God rescued Lot before the destruction.

Our Father is faithful.

[Jessie]

just how bad will it get before the Lord comes for us and
how many will be left?

[CoreIssue]

Hard to put an exact label on it.

I believe the key is there is some key point where no more will be saved in the Church Age.

Which means it is going to get really rough first.

[eahaddix]

I believe the key is there is some key point where no more will be saved in the Church Age.

:hmm:Interesting idea. How did you come to this conclusion?

[CoreIssue]

Because of the Bible talking about the final gathering of the Gentiles.

Since Gentiles will be saved in the Trib and MK it had to mean during the Church Age.

[eahaddix]

Because of the Bible talking about the final gathering of the Gentiles.

Since Gentiles will be saved in the Trib and MK it had to mean during the Church Age.

:scratch: I could interpret this answer in different ways. Can you clarify your point?

[CoreIssue]

I mean that they way things are falling apart and the Apostacy is growing that a point will be reached where no more will believe and become Church.

That point is pivotal and when the Rapture will occur.

Of course I might be off a bit on the exacting details but that is the general idea.

Could also be just falling below an acceptable level of turning to Christ.

But something along those lines.

The Trib is a fresh start and change of covenant. Allows for drawing people to God again.

[eahaddix]

I mean that they way things are falling apart and the Apostacy is growing that a point will be reached where no more will believe and become Church.

That point is pivotal and when the Rapture will occur.

Of course I might be off a bit on the exacting details but that is the general idea.

Could also be just falling below an acceptable level of turning to Christ.

But something along those lines.

These ideas sound logically plausible. However, since we cannot chart historical trends, these ideas represent good guesswork, at best.

Perhaps the core issue is not about unduplicated numbers, but about unduplicated circumstances. Specifically, the Church survived the pre-Reformation domination of Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, yet the Church will not survive the current domination of worldly materialism.

[CoreIssue]

I believe historical data backs my position.

The Church grew until the Gospel was preached all over the world.

Now it is going apostate at an ever increasing rate with RCC, WoF and such.

Of course materialism figures in.

But that does not negate the fact that spiritualism is growing. Problem is that it is not true Christianity but 7th church Christianity, Islam, New Age and such

God is more known than ever before. But also redefined, rejected and neglected in spite of being more known than ever before.

Most assuredly is a debatable point. But I see a exponentially growing pattern which is in harmony with the statement about the gathering of the last Gentiles.

Each will have to decide for themselves on this one.