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Arthur C Clarke
“But I am quite serious about the profound philosophical importance of the search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI); this may be its supreme justification. The fact that we have not yet found evidence for life – much less intelligence – beyond this earth does not surprise or disappoint me in the least. Our technology must still be laughably primitive; we may well be like jungle savages listening for throbbing of tom-toms, while the ether around them carries more words per second than they could utter in a life time.”
I believe this shows that man is searching with his ear what can only be heard with his heart!
Can you hear him? He is calling you.
Arthur, TLIR
Jessie
02-27-2006, 06:40 PM
that was great!
have to remember that one.
CoreIssue
02-27-2006, 08:17 PM
Be careful here. Clarke is not a Christian.
I didn't mean to insinuate that he was a Christian.
I was using his words about the SETI program to show mankind's hunger to hear from God.
Man is using all the wrong equipment to hear with his ear what can only be heard with his heart.
CoreIssue
02-27-2006, 08:31 PM
I didn't mean to insinuate that he was a Christian.
I was using his words about the SETI program to show mankind's hunger to hear from God.
Man is using all the wrong equipment to hear with his ear what can only be heard with his heart.
No problem.
Their god is the universe. So wrong equipment, wrong location and wrong target.
Jessie
02-27-2006, 11:45 PM
I believe this shows that man is searching with his ear what can only be heard with his heart!
Can you hear him? He is calling you.
this is the part that I was talking about...to remember..
That was the whole point Jessie. Glad you got it. I think some others missed it.
CoreIssue
02-28-2006, 09:42 AM
Here (http://www.looksmarttrends.com/p/articles/mi_m2843/is_5_25/ai_77757772) is where that quote came from.
Clark is avid anti-Christianity. Always has been.
I Agree many are looking for God in the wrong way. It just is not true for Clark.
He does not want God.
Jessie
02-28-2006, 12:17 PM
its something that he is percieving its the endtimes, but does'nt want God.
very sad...
These are things I have been posting on the motorcycle forum. I just wanted to share them here with you guys to get your input on them. I also just made the following as a post today.
Arthur C Clarke was speaking about voices that the natives were not able to hear because they lacked technology to hear the radio, television and satellite waves all around them.
What I am saying is that humans have the inherent equipment to hear more than what their ears can hear.
Picture a table with seeds on it.
Now as you look, you see a tomato seed. What does it say to you?
Without a voice you can hear with your ear, it says to you; “I’m a tomato seed. I will give you tomatoes, nothing but tomatoes. If you put me in the ground I will give you a harvest of ripe, red, juicy tomatoes.”
It has a voice of it’s own.
God is speaking to you right now. Can’t you hear him? “Come to me.” Can you hear him? He is calling you! “Believe in me.” He believes in you. He trusted that when you heard the message of his love for you that you would believe it. It is with the heart that a person believes and is made right with God.
Believe what? The gospel message of the son of his love. The price he paid to ransom you. Hear him as he says, “I love you, I want you, I have a plan for you, you have a purpose, you are valuable to me.”
He is speaking volumes more. Can’t you hear him? He is calling you.
“Come to me with your ears wide open. Listen, for the life of your soul is at stake. I am ready to make an everlasting covenant with you. I will give you mercy and unfailing love.
My thoughts are completely different from yours, and my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.”
Seek the Lord while you can find him. Call on him now while he is near. Yes turn to God, for he will abundantly pardon. Who will believe the message? To whom will the Lord reveal himself?
(Jer 29:11 NIV) For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
CoreIssue
02-28-2006, 06:57 PM
The Universe testifies to God.
But it requires one to realize there is a grand power behind the Universe and the Universe is not the grand power.
Those who are willing to seek truth and that power will find God if the listen. Those who seek to either be the grand power or a part of it will never hear him.
I kind of think that is what you are getting at.
Thats true.
Seek the creator not the creation.
I think I have to be careful what I give them all at once.
However that last post was kind of heavy.
But there have been no negative replies. Only evasive non related comments. That is a big a step for these guys.
WoW.
That was deep.
But I kinda think our Father who art in Heaven would be a bit offended if we didn't use our minds, souls, and bodies to their greatest capacity. Afterall, what better homage to the Creator than to marvel and actively wonder about the very nature of our own existance................and His?
BTW thanks to your talking tomato seed post, I'm sure to have some really screwy dreams tonight. http://www.indianmotorcyclecommunity.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/How-Rude.gif
This was the last post someone made on the motrocycle site.:pray:
CoreIssue
03-01-2006, 08:18 PM
This was the last post someone made on the motrocycle site.:pray:
He didn't get it.
Do you have any suggestions as what to do or say?
CoreIssue
03-02-2006, 09:35 AM
MYself, I wiould simply that presentation or conclude it with a summation.
Which is what I did with my impression of what you were saying.
He isn't getting the point that you do not find God IN or as part OF the Creation.
He is that old train of thought, knowingly or not, that you can actually test and qualify God.
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