The Palestinians

[Chrystalwuzhere]

For so long, we've had it in our thinking that the Palestinians will somehow be involved, or included in the treaty the AC strikes up with Israel. And, don't get me wrong, they may be involved. But....

Why aren't they mentioned in the endtime scenarios in the Bible. Check it out... the MAIN focus in this world is the Israel/Palestinian conflict. The whole world is not only watching, but everyone and anyone from every nation has a passionate opinion about it. The world at large is sending them money, and demanding Israel live peacefully as a nation along side them...it doesn't appear the Palestinians are going anywhere.

So...I ask you.... being that it's the endtimes, and we are heading into the final showdown...why aren't the Palestinians mentioned at all in Revelation where it talks about the judgments and nations being judged?

Could it be (and just hear me out on this) that if the Pally's were destroyed out of Israel, that prophecy wouldn't be hindered at all? There's nothing that says the Palestinians have to be present during all of this. Many have said that the AC will barter a treaty which will allow the Jews to rebuild the temple around the Dome of the Rock, but the Jews have said there is no way they can do that because having that mosque sitting there is unacceptable. So... couldn't Israel just decide to declare all out war on the Palestinians, expel them from Israel, and destroy the Dome themselves? That would cause a world-wide outcry, and many nations to rise up against Israel...then, the AC steps in and
Daniel 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week.

The Bible says he would make the covenant with MANY for one week... but still, no Palestinians mentioned in ANY way.

Could this scenario work at all?

[Chrystalwuzhere]

-bump-

[CoreIssue]

:D Hmmm. Hair trigger on the bump there!

I don't think it works.

The AC and EU are not coming in based on the needs of Israel. They will come in based on their needs.

A clue the Dome is still there is the fact the Outer Court of the Temple is tread by Gentiles.

Looking at where the Dome is and where the old Temple is gives meaning to this phrase.

The Jews get the exclusive Inner Temple. And the nation is left at peace. All while Gentiles roam the city and Outer Temple.

I believe the deal will encompass absorption of the Palastinians into surrounding nations with maybe some land giveaway by Israel.

Whatever it is means the borders of Israel are secured by the EU by force and threat.

We see it is not a peaceful time. There are wars, but wars outside the borders of Israel between the EU and other nations.

That means whatever happens by force is done by the EU, not Israel.

Remember, the many the treaty is with does not have to include a single Muslim nation. It could be the rest of the worlds saying it has to end from both sides. Meaning Israel and Muslim.

Israel would agree if it got the Muslims away from them.

[Chrystalwuzhere]

Hmmm...pondering this.

It's just that, I can't get past the fact that as big a player as the Palestinians are now, why aren't they mentioned in scripture?

And, the Jews I've seen talking about it do say that the temple and the mosque being side by side on the mount is unacceptable.

[CoreIssue]

Hmmm...pondering this.

It's just that, I can't get past the fact that as big a player as the Palestinians are now, why aren't they mentioned in scripture?

And, the Jews I've seen talking about it do say that the temple and the mosque being side by side on the mount is unacceptable.

The Palestinians themselves are not the power players. It is the nations supporting them.

They are nothing more than arms of those nations.

Who says dead side by side? And who says those are the Jews who will decide?

You forget, even if the Dome were destroyed the rock would still be there. Thus the problem would not just go away. It is what is in the Dome, not the Dome, that is sacred to the Muslims.

So if a earthquake hit and the rock slide off the mount completely? Still there, not Israel's fault, but no longer side by side to a Temple either.

Just a possibility. Expecially when I don't know if it s a rock rock or an outcropping.

[CTZonEdit]

Here's a good question.
Does the temple have to be re-built on its original foundations?

[CoreIssue]

Here's a good question.
Does the temple have to be re-built on its original foundations?

By God's command? No.

But will the Jews tolerate any other location? That is the issue.

[CTZonEdit]

So the rebuilt temple location could be close but not exact?

[CoreIssue]

So the rebuilt temple location could be close but not exact?

There are 3 theories as to where the Holy of Holies set, which is the critical element. If the north position is correct then they could build a Temple with the Dome standing having 150' separation between them.

The more dominate theory right now has it almost dead beneath the Dome.

[Chrystalwuzhere]

The more dominate theory right now has it almost dead beneath the Dome.

Now that would pose a problem.

[CoreIssue]

Now that would pose a problem.

The complication is that Harod's Temple added to the Second Temple was was less majestic than the first.

So determining where the Holy of Holies was positioned in relationship to the Wailing Wall is the issue.

Remember, contrary to what many think the Holy of Holies was not in the middle of the Inner Temple was many assume was in the middle of the Temple complex as a whole. Then Inner Temple was behind the Outer Temple and the Holy of Holies was on its back wall.

One had to go the full depth of the Temple to reach it.