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Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:17 AM
The first 7 posts in this thread were copied over from the old board by Chrystalwuzhere.

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:52 pm by IntheWind.

The Third Jihad

It is an enemy that is driven by a fervent, unquestioning religious zeal that is inspired by certain verses in the Muslim’s most holy books, the Koran and the Hadith. A devout Muslim fundamentalist believes that giving his life in an attack that kills great numbers of American civilians will be greatly rewarded by Allah.

It is an enemy inspired by the historical accounts of its greatest leaders who led Jihads or holy wars that conquered nations, peoples and land from the Atlantic coast of Africa to the Islands of Indonesia in the Pacific.

It is an enemy who believes that all non-Muslims live in the Dar al Harb, which means the “House of War.” He believes that Muslims alone live in Dar al Islam, “the House of Peace.” Mohammad divided the world into these two groups and taught that all infidels had to be brought under Islam.

This enemy believes that forcing the unbelievers into submission to Allah, either by conversion to Islam or by forcing him into submission to pay the jizrah tax and live as a second-class citizen under Muslim rule is the only way that world peace will be achieved.

He believes that it is his solemn duty to Allah to bring all religions into submission (which is the meaning of the word Islam) to the Muslim faith. Therefore, Jihads must continue until this is achieved. He believes that a true peace-loving Muslim must fight to bring all into submission to Allah so that true “peace” can be achieved. He believes there can be no peace either corporately or individually without this universal submission to Allah and his laws.

As the new leader of Fundamental Islam, Usama bin Laden, said, “In essence, this war is a religious war.”

We must learn that though all Muslims are not terrorists, all terrorists who pose a threat to us are Muslim. So profiling among them is absolutely necessary if we are to survive at all. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how and where to find a Muslim terrorist.

Most Muslims in the US do not want to be part of a jihad. They choose to ignore the Koranic verses that call for violence and conquest and cling to the verses that call for tolerance and patience.

The verses of tolerance and patience were received early in Mohammad’s ministry while he was in Mecca. He had no large following at this time and was often threatened and persecuted.

Allah later revealed to Mohammad in Medina verses that called for violence and conquest against the non-believing infidels. It was not coincidental that Allah’s will changed with Mohammad’s acquisition of great numbers of militant followers. It is the “Medina verses” that inspire the so-called-radical Muslims to launch violent jihads against the infidels in order to convert them, force them into submissive tax-paying servants or to kill them.

Militant Muslim leaders are calling this era the time of the Third great Jihad.

The First Jihad started with Mohammad and the first four leaders who followed him known as the Caliphs. Under their leadership, Islam spread farther and faster than any religion in history.

During this time, Islam very nearly conquered Western Civilization in Europe. Charles Martel of France finally defeated the Muslim Saracen armies that came up from occupied Spain at the battle of Tours. This took place in AD 732 and effectively ended the first jihad.

The Ottoman Turks launched the Second Jihad in the 16th Century. They expanded Muslim borders to their greatest extent. They very nearly conquered Europe and took over western civilization until they were defeated at the gates of Vienna in AD 1683. Ottoman power began to wane after the Vienna defeat. The second jihad was ended with the crushing of what was left of the Ottoman Empire during World War 1.

Militant Muslims believe that the Third Jihad has begun. The factors that most created this current Jihad are these. First, Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab (1703-1792) of Arabia started a fundamentalist revival that stressed a return to a passionate following of the literal interpretation of the Koran and Hadith. Wahhab drew heavily from the writings of Islamic scholar ibn Taymyya (1263-1328).

Wahhabi theology advocates a ‘puritanical and legalistic’ stance in matters of faith and religious practice. It sees modern culture, especially that of the West, as totally at odds with the enshrined Muslim culture of the 7th Century Arabian Peninsula that permeates the Koran.

Wahabbism was adopted by the leader of the House of Saud, Abdul Aziz ibn Saud. It has dominated the Saudis ever since. He founded the modern state of Saudi Arabia in 1932. Shortly thereafter, oil was discovered and the resulting enormous wealth has been used to spread the Wahabbism brand of Islam. Wahhabism dominates the fundamentalist movement and terrorists. Iran practices a form of Wahhabism. It was Wahhabism that inspired the faith of the 19 terrorists that launched suicide attacks against the U.S. on 9/11 – and they were all Saudis. Usama bin Laden, the principle leader of the present so-called Third Jihad, is a fanatical follower of Wahabbism – as is al-Qaeda.

By far the most important factor in starting the Third Jihad was the disastrous policy of Jimmy Carter that allowed the Shah of Iran to fall and facilitated the Ayatollah Khomeini’s return from exile to take over Iran. This created the most fervent enemy of the U.S. in the world. Khomeini promptly branded the U.S. “the great Satan”, because he saw us as the greatest obstacle to the spread of Islam. He inspired the various terrorist groups as few others have.

The other important factor to the Third Jihad was the CIA sponsored recruiting, training and equipping of fanatical Islamic fighters from around the world. Once these “holy warriors” defeated the Soviet Union military and forced them to leave Afghanistan, a monster was born – al-Qaeda (the Base), which is the most dangerous terrorist organization in the world. They furnish the inspiration and leadership to the other Muslim fanatics who are determined to destroy what they see as the greatest hindrance to Islamic conquest – the USA.

These devout Wahabbi-Muslim followers have the inspiration, determination, training and access to weapons of mass destruction to cause the collapse of the U.S. They call this Jihad a ‘hundred year war.’

So America – WAKE UP! We have never faced an enemy as dangerous and determined as this one. If you think not, just remember, 19 of these fanatics launched an attack on our soil that killed more Americans than the Imperial Japanese Naval Air Force did at Pearl Harbor.

The attacks being plotted against us right now involve WMDs that can kill thousands of time more Americans.

When America went to war after Pearl Harbor, the whole nation mobilized and made great and sustained sacrifices until the enemy was defeated. It is even more important today that we continue to realize we are in a war that was not of our choosing. We can’t just relax our guard and think the menace we face will go away. Any sign of weakness will just encourage him to launch more lethal attacks.

So it is time for America to either choose to fight with all its might, or be destroyed as all other powers of past history were destroyed when they lost their determination and courage from internal decay. I pray that America does not fall under the onslaught of the Third Jihad.



http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=12266 (http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/articles.asp?ArticleID=12266)

Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:17 AM
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:57 am by CoreIssue.


Tons of good statements.

But I stand firm that Islam will not be the religion or any such thing for the AC. I see Islam as the fuse that will trigger the desire to exterminate monotheistic religions.

What will the secular and universalist world do when they see Islam reaching the point of them having to submit or go to war with Islam?

War.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:18 AM
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:20 pm by Chrystalwuzhere.

I believe Islam will continue to grow to the point where it will continue to be a horribly violent epidemic in our world, but I don't see it taking over the world. There are far too many westernized people to submit to the restrictions of Islam. Too many women's libbers, too many atheists, too many culturally modern people to submit to the repressive religion.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:19 AM
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:47 pm by Jessie.

what is a montheistic religion?

Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:19 AM
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:09 pm by IntheWind.

what is a montheistic religion?

That would be us.

mono means one

theism means belief about god or diety.

So it`s a religion that believes in one god.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:22 AM
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:00 pm by Jessie.

so the RCC would just morph into this very easily....

interesting.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-25-2006, 09:23 AM
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:17 am by Chrystalwuzhere.


Yes, Jessie. Exactly. I still remember the picture Sid posted on another board of Pope John Paul II kissing the Quran. http://www.christiantalkzone.net/archive/images/smiles/nono02.gif

The RCC is absolutely astounding in their ecumenical stand. They will embrace other religions, and make treaties with them, all the while whispering (very loudly) that they are the ONE TRUE CHURCH and that salvation comes only through that one true church. The church is god in RCC, not Jehovah Jireh. Mary has replaced Christ, and stands in as the Holy Spirit, replacing Him as well.

When you dig into the dung heap of Catholicism, it's amazing at the things that are uncovered. How anyone can study it and still say it is a Christian church is beyond me. It is anything BUT Christian.

Revelation calls the mother church a whore.

Sid
09-20-2006, 01:58 PM
So America – WAKE UP! We have never faced an enemy as dangerous and determined as this one.




I rarely stay up past 11PM, but last month I was up really late to watch the Perseid meteor shower with my 9 y.o., since he had never seen a shooting star. Laying on the trampoline (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=trampoline&spell=1)in the backyard, I was also listenging to George Noory on Coast to Coast AM.

Noory was interviewing a Muslim who had converted to Christianity and the one thing that came out that was an EUREKA! moment was when the discussion turned to Islamic end time prophesies and the 12th Iman:

Islamic eschatology is closely related to the Christian equivalent BUT 180 DEGREES OUT OF PHASE!

Christians know little of Islam, and even less of Islamic end times prophesy.

Let's examine both. . . .

Sid
09-20-2006, 03:11 PM
Islamic eschatology is closely related to the Christian equivalent BUT 180 DEGREES OUT OF PHASE!

Christians know little of Islam, and even less of Islamic end times prophesy.

Let's examine both. . . .


The more you look at the Islamic 12th Iman, the more you see the antichrist.

. . . Islamic is an antichrist religion.



When you take the traditions of Islam and the prophecies of the Bible and look at prophecy of scripture from an Islamic perspective you discover that if you look at the details you see interesting parallels. The Muslim Mahdi comes riding on a white horse and Revelation 6 speaks of a man coming riding a white horse with a crown and a bow with no arrows, which could say he is coming in the name of peace (though different men have said that is Jesus, Satan or the antichrist).

Let’s look at this tradition of the twelfth prophet, the Mahdi, that is supposed to be in a desert being protected by God, that in the last days he will appear according to Islamic tradition with Jesus. That is what is really interesting. The Muslims believe in Jesus but they do not believe that he was the Son of God and they do not believe he was crucified.

All Muslims believe that Jesus was a great prophet and that he was actually born of the Virgin Mary. Where they totally separate everything with Christianity is that Jesus is the Son of God. The Koran and their traditions teach that God has no son, that He was not begotten and has not begotten any son.

The frightening part and bazaar part is that all Islam, the Sunni and Shiite have these same traditions and believe that when this man comes into power, Jesus will appear with him and they will go into Jerusalem and there is a writing that says when they come the rocks will says “Jews are hiding behind us” and they kill the Jews at that point.

To quote them, they will “kill the swine and destroy the cross.” The swine being the Jews and the cross being the Christians. That is why there will be so many martyrs in Revelation 6 and the beheading of people in Revelation 20. The doctrine of the sword of Islam says that one who blasphemes the name of the prophet Mohammed or the name of Allah, is to be beheaded with the sword.




More. . . (http://www.hissheep.org/prophecy/the_muslims_final_prophet.html)

Sid
09-20-2006, 03:30 PM
The more you look at the Islamic 12th Iman, the more you see the antichrist.

. . . Islamic is an antichrist religion.



Moslems also expect the advent of Imam Mahdi ("The Guided One"). The Shia sect claims that he will appear out of a tunnel [some say a well] (which he entered at the age of 5) in Samarra; allegedly his name is Muhammed ibn al-Hasan ibn al-Askari.

This prophecy is found in Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib's Nahj'ul Balagha [The Path of Eloquence], Khutba 141, 187:


The Imam who will create a world state will make the ruling nations pay for their crimes against society.
He will bring succor to humanity. He will take out the hidden wealth from the breast of the earth and will distribute it equitably amongst the needy deserving.
He will teach you simple living and high thinking.
He will make you understand that virtue is a state of character which is always a mean between the two extremes, and which is based on equity and justice.
He will revive the teaching of the Holy Qur'an and the traditions of the Holy Prophet after the world has ignored them as dead letters.
He will protect and defend himself with resources of science and supreme knowledge.
His control over these resources will be complete.
He will know how supreme they are and how carefully they will have to be used.
His mind will be free from desires of bringing harm and injury to humanity. Such a knowledge to him will belike the property which was wrongly possessed by others and for which he was waiting for the permission to repossess and use.
He, in the beginning, will be a poor stranger unknown and uncared for, and Islam then will be in the helpless and hopeless plight of an exhausted camel who has laid down its head and is wagging its tail. With such a start he will establish an empire of God in this world.
He will be the final demonstration and proof of God's merciful wish to acquaint man with the right ways of life.More. . . (http://www.rexresearch.com/articles/muslim%7E1.htm)
The common aspects of the Mahdi with the antichrist are unmistakable. . .

CoreIssue
09-20-2006, 10:02 PM
Yep. Their End Times sees a total purging of the world of all non-Muslims.

Not until then will this so-called religion of peace have peace in their eyes.

Sid
09-21-2006, 10:15 AM
Their End Times sees a total purging of the world of all non-Muslims.

Not until then will this so-called religion of peace have peace in their eyes.



Core:


The closer I have examined the Islamic teaching of the reappearance of the 12th Imam, the Mahdi. . .

. . . the closer their end times messiah looks like the Christian Bible's antichrist.



The raging factions of Islam now believe that within a very short time, a divine one – the Mahdi – will come to defeat the infidel and install Islam as the world’s only faith. Their Mahdi, a messianic figure, bears a strong resemblance to the Judeo-Christian Messiah.

The teachings of the new religion of Islam featured a heaven and a hell, and a god of vengeance who, it was said, would one day send a savior – a Mahdi – to rule the world and to set up his kingdom. Many of its beliefs revolved around biblical claims that went all the way back to Abraham, whose true inheritance was claimed to be through Ishmael, not Isaac. Ishmael was cast as the forbearer of the population that would finally inherit the world, under Islam.

From all of this, any discerning Christian can see that Islam has taken the key end-time prophecies of the Bible, mixed them up, and turned them upside-down. America is Gog. Its president is the Beast. The apocalypse is dominated by the Mahdi, who destroys both America and Israel. This will bring the world into the glorious age of its kingdom, called the Day of Islam.

Christians viewing the present situation in Iran and Iraq should remember that over eighty percent of the combined Shiite population are Twelvers. They believe that in 874 A.D., Mohammad al-Mahdi went into hiding after the assassination of his father. His disappearance is referred to by Islamics as the "occultation." In the 1,132 years since, Allah is said to have given him the power to hide in plain sight.



More. . . (http://www.prophecyinthenews.com/articledetail.asp?Article_ID=169)
The pieces of the prophetic puzzle are fitting a little bit closer by the day . . .


Looking up. . . .

Sid
09-21-2006, 12:26 PM
The common aspects of the Mahdi with the antichrist are unmistakable. . .


Another piece of the prophetic puzzle presents itself:

. . . the Mahdi will reign for 7 years and then the world will end.



While most of the reporting and analysis of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech at the U.N. focused on what he had to say about the West and specifically the U.S., his chilling closing remarks were lost on most listeners – and apparently all reporters.

The last two paragraphs of his remarks revealed his steadfast and driving conviction that a messianic figure, known as the "Mahdi" to Muslims, is poised to reveal himself after an apocalyptic holocaust on Earth that leaves most of the world's population dead.


Ahmadinejad is on record as stating he believes he is to have a personal role in ushering in the age of the Mahdi. In a Nov. 16, 2005, speech in Tehran, he said he sees his main mission in life as to "pave the path for the glorious reappearance of Imam Mahdi, may Allah hasten his reappearance."


According to Shiites, the 12th imam disappeared as a child in the year 941. When he returns, they believe, he will reign on earth for seven years, before bringing about a final judgment and the end of the world.



Imanutjob's UN speech reveals Islamic endtimes vision (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52071)

Jessie
09-21-2006, 03:58 PM
I dont think they will have peace, they cant get along now among themselves,
they love blood, and the wicked can never have any peace.

CoreIssue
09-21-2006, 04:37 PM
Sid, there are actually a ton of differences between the Islamic Messiah and the Anti-Christ.

Not to mention the AC comes from the EU, is a Emporer in the Pagan Roman way, fights against Islamic nations and more.

Islam is simply not the religion of the AC.

Their Messiah never calls himself Allah. An Islamic AC would never enter the Jewish Temple and claim it as his own. He would destroy it completely.

Sid
09-25-2006, 04:56 PM
Sid, there are actually a ton of differences between the Islamic Messiah and the Anti-Christ.

Not to mention the AC comes from the EU, is a Emporer in the Pagan Roman way, fights against Islamic nations and more.

Islam is simply not the religion of the AC.

Their Messiah never calls himself Allah. An Islamic AC would never enter the Jewish Temple and claim it as his own. He would destroy it completely.


Core:


There is a lot of disinformation contained in Islam, that and a multitude of interpretations.


The comparison isn't perfect, but Islam has a lot going for it being an antichrist religion.




There is an Islamic teaching called taqiyya. Taqiyya means deception or concealing and disguising one’s beliefs and intentions to fool the adversary. According to Muhammad all forbidden things become permissible if they are to be used for the advancement of Islam. So Muslims can lie, steal, murder and rape with complete clear conscience because they are convinced of doing the right thing….

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60219.htm

The Qu'ran says a Muslim's first allegance is to Islam. That's the constant. That's the will of Allah.


LINK (http://www.bearpit.net/lofiversion/index.php/t7514.html)

CoreIssue
09-25-2006, 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoreIssue http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.christiantalkzone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=14661#post14661)
Sid, there are actually a ton of differences between the Islamic Messiah and the Anti-Christ.

Not to mention the AC comes from the EU, is a Emporer in the Pagan Roman way, fights against Islamic nations and more.

Islam is simply not the religion of the AC.

Their Messiah never calls himself Allah. An Islamic AC would never enter the Jewish Temple and claim it as his own. He would destroy it completely.


Core:
There is a lot of disinformation contained in Islam, that and a multitude of interpretations.

The comparison isn't perfect, but Islam has a lot going for it being an antichrist religion.


Hey Sid,
It actually has nothing going for it.

OT prophecy clearly shows the AC will fight against Islamic nations, not for them.

The AC arises from the Ten Toes, that make up his restored Empire. That is Europe, specifically the EU.

I am aware of different variations on Islamic End Times. But none are expecting a god to come to them.

They all see Isa coming, Christ, but as a prophet and holy man. Not a good.

Revelation clearly ilustrates Rome as the capital of the AC Empire and religion. The Harlot is adorned the same as the old Pagan Roman religious leadership.

Islam just does not fit prophecy as the AC religion.

But I sure see it as the trigger for for empowering the AC to fight against them, do the 7 year covenant and fulfill the wars of Daniel and so on.

The Islamic nations go with Russia, not the AC at Mid.


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There is an Islamic teaching called taqiyya. Taqiyya means deception or concealing and disguising one’s beliefs and intentions to fool the adversary. According to Muhammad all forbidden things become permissible if they are to be used for the advancement of Islam. So Muslims can lie, steal, murder and rape with complete clear conscience because they are convinced of doing the right thing….

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60219.htm

The Qu'ran says a Muslim's first allegance is to Islam. That's the constant. That's the will of Allah.

I am aware of it.

But I am also aware no variant of Islam has Allah coming to the earth. He always rules through a human leader. Which is Isa for them.

I can see where it is tempting to see Islam. But it doesn't work in the fine details as being the AC religion. But it sure works as the trigger for the 7 year treaty and the wars of the AC against Islamic nations during the Trib.

They are not going to take kindly to a powerful Emporer claiming to be a god while defending Israel.