CoreIssue
06-26-2006, 04:21 PM
Watchman Nee is considered a cult by most in Bibilical Christianity. Those who do not quite go that far label his teachings dangerous.
Apologetics Index (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/n01.html)
Watching Out For Watchman NeeThe teachings that developed over Nee's lifetime and out of his encounters with these women and the teachings they directed him to are dangerous to Christians seeking clear guidelines to follow. Space allows a listing of only a few of the problems in Nee's teachings:
Nee outlines no method of Bible study and interpretation and appears to deny evangelical hermeneutics. In his book Spiritual Authority, he sets himself and his elders up as the unquestionable authorities. By all appearances, Nee saw himself not as a servant but as a guru.
One gets the impression from Nee that the Bible was not nearly as important as Christians generally consider it. In his book The Ministry of God's Word, Nee says, "Words alone cannot be considered God's Word." In this book, Nee becomes very philosophical, mystical and incoherent. He says that only as we deliver the Word in terms of the "reality behind it," using what he calls "Holy Spirit memory" and "presenting the pictures as well as speaking the words" will the words be correct; otherwise they are not real.
Nee overemphasizes emotions. In The Ministry of God's Word, he claims that the effectiveness of a preacher's delivery is a product of his emotions. If a preacher does not feel emotionally charged in delivery, "the Spirit is stuck" and the "Spirit is inevitably arrested," Nee says. He continues, "The Spirit flows through the channel of emotion." Then he arrives at a strange conclusion: "Nose in the Scripture stands for feeling. Smelling is a most delicate act, man's feeling is most delicate." Therefore, Nee says, a preacher in speaking needs to "mix feelings with the words spoken, else his words are dead. If our feeling lags behind, our words are stripped of the spirit." To say as Nee does, on page 210, that the Holy Spirit only rides on feeling is dangerous.
Nee uses terms imprecisely. One example is his writing about a minister's receiving "revelations" in his "Holy Spirit memory" and those revelations being remembered in us by the Holy Spirit. This sort of metaphysical mumbo jumbo is impossible to understand, since there is no direct scriptural reference to a "Holy Spirit memory."
When a Christian begins to see Nee as a guide in determining the value of other Christian writers, or sees Nee's writings as a key to spirituality, that person is headed for trouble. Nee's presuppositions are suspect in light of the Word of God. His books provide grist for cult groups such as The Way (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/w17.html), The Alamo Foundation, the Children of God (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f07.html) and other groups (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l40.html). The astute believer should watch out for Watchman Nee.
Religious Movements Library (http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/loca.html)
While refusing to label any group a cult, they convey the understanding he and his movement are considered cut by including sites labeling him as cult in their footnotes.
The church's theology includes belief in a Triune God, that is, the unification of the Father, the Son and the Holy Sprirt in one being.
Something you deny.
Its fairly orthodox scriptural interpretation holds that Christ was born a God-man, ie., composed of both human and divine attributes. Man is characterized as atripartite union of body, soul and spirit, and also possesses the potential for divine nature.
Something you deny.
I know of NO Biblical scholar or theologian who reads the Bible literally that gives Nee any support as being good for Christianity or Biblically grounded.
Many of his writings and thoughts come from extra-Biblical sources.
His own writing state he believes you have to go beyond the Bible for divine truth and revelation. That the Bible is only the beginning to a reality beyond it.
And who found and declared that reality? Nee!
Show me, in the Bible, this Holy Spirit Memory. Or that one has to be emotional for the Holy Spirit to flow and work. Or that there is revelation beyond the Bible we need to find and study.
Parture
06-26-2006, 05:11 PM
Watchman Nee of course is not considered by Biblical Christianity to be a cult, but those who are tares in the kingdom would make such an accusation because they are selfish and are hostile to consecrated Christians. Indeed, those who do this are themselves quite dangerous for they use Christianity for their selfish purposes, thus sin aginst the uttermost spiritual Christians.
Richard Fisher List of Reasons Why Watchman Nee is “Dangerous”
(Watch Out for Richard Fisher)
1. Methods of Bible Study
Richard babbles, “Nee outlines no method of Bible study and interpretation and appears to deny evangelical hermeneutics." Watchman Nee did outline methods of Bible study that goes into great detail in the book, Ye Search the Scriptures, Part 2 “The Methods of Bible Study." This whole book is a study of how to study the Scriptures. Evangelical hermeneutics are revealed throughout.
2. Spiritual Authority
Richard babbles, “In his book Spiritual Authority, he sets himself and his elders up as the unquestionable authorities. By all appearances, Nee saw himself not as a servant but as a guru." I have read this book and have responded to another misreading of this same book floating around the internet by Pat Knapp (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Pat_Knapp.htm). I was careful before reading this book looking for any possible mistakes of cited by Richard Fisher or Pat Knapp, which unsurprisingly, I could not find any of the claims they were making. Their statements are flatly disproved. Watchman Nee never made himself to be a guru or unquestioned authority. That is not the meaning of authority and submission. If anything is wrong in this book, Spiritual Authority let that man cast the first stone, because I can’t find anything wrong with it. It is basically just common sense.
3. Bible Importance
Richard babbles, “One gets the impression from Nee that the Bible was not nearly as important as Christians generally consider it. In his book The Ministry of God's Word, Nee says, 'Words alone cannot be considered God's Word.' In this book, Nee becomes very philosophical, mystical and incoherent. He says that only as we deliver the Word in terms of the reality behind it,' using what he calls 'Holy Spirit memory' and 'presenting the pictures as well as speaking the words' will the words be correct; otherwise they are not real”.
Understand what Nee is saying about our outward memory and the Holy Spirit memory (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/holyspiritmemory.htm). "Words alone cannot be considered as God’s word. There must be the reality behind them" (p. 209 pdf, CFP). "Let us understand that the coming forth of words alone is not enough; the spirit must also come out, and when it does it will do so together with feeling" (p. 221 pdf). In other words, people speak forth, but their hearts need to be touched also.
The Bible was the most important thing to Nee for it was the Word of God, and he dissected it better than anyone I know. Nee is correct that words alone by themselves are not the end all to be all of things. A fair statement! Nee was not incoherent, nor mystical nor philosophical. He was so incredibly precise that his words are such a joy. He had an incredibly deep working of the Holy Spirit in his life. When Watchman Nee used the term Holy Spirit memory, he cited verses to identify the meaning of what he was trying to get across. What he has said about the Holy Spirit memory makes sense both objectively and subjectively in experience. The reality behind words is more important than words for words sakes, certainly. There is a memory activity that we can forget of the Holy Spirit in our inner man that is important to maintain otherwise we are susceptible to falling back towards the flesh. Experientially I can not deny this in my life either. It seems like plain old common sense to me. I have a poor memory so I should know.
4. Emotion
Richard babbles “Nee overemphasizes emotions. In The Ministry of God's Word, he claims that the effectiveness of a preacher's delivery is a product of his emotions. If a preacher does not feel emotionally charged in delivery, "the Spirit is stuck" and the "Spirit is inevitably arrested," Nee says. He continues, "The Spirit flows through the channel of emotion." Then he arrives at a strange conclusion: "Nose in the Scripture stands for feeling. Smelling is a most delicate act, man's feeling is most delicate." Therefore, Nee says, a preacher in speaking needs to "mix feelings with the words spoken, else his words are dead. If our feeling lags behind, our words are stripped of the spirit." To say as Nee does, on page 210 that the Holy Spirit only rides on feeling is dangerous”.
Nee does not overemphasis emotions. If you understand Nee’s writings you know that He believes the Holy Spirit always starts from the spirit’s inner man, not the outer man like the emotion of the soul. Emotion is an outlet, expression of feelings. Who wants to listen to a minister without emotion? Nose in scripture does stand for feelings and its delicacy (see below). Nee does not say at all on page 210 that the Holy Spirit rides only on emotion as Richard says. On page 210 (CFP) he says “we use emotion to move people as our spirit is released” and “going forth of the word is powerful only when it is coupled with a corresponding emotion” and “out from the feelings” and “trying to move men with only our emotion is mere performance, resulting in a dead ministry”. This is the complete opposite of what Richard Fisher accused Nee of. Incredible. I find that this critique of Nee is really flawed since nowhere does Nee state the Holy Spirit rides only on emotion. My assessment is that if someone can be this horrible and reading another’s words, then it is either purposefully done with intent or just plain ignorance and misreading.
Nee is also correct that the Holy Spirit flows through the channel of emotion. I already know what he means by this and what he is thinking because I read The Spiritual Man several times which you could say is the foundational book for the redemptive design of all his writings. What he is saying is that the Spirit will use emotion by communicating what is of the spirit to the emotion of the soul. No emotion at all is ineffective, and excessive emotion is also undesirable. For all occasions there are boundaries of what is healthy emotionally.
Nee writes on page 208 of Ministry of God’s Word about the nose from Song of Songs in the Bible. He says “We humans beings have a will, but the will of man is rather rugged. So have we a mind, which, though more refined than the will, is nevertheless quite rugged too. But the emotion which we possess is most delicate part of us. We may ruthlessly make a decision with our will, we may carefully think over a matter, but we touch the tenderest spot when something touches our feeling. Accordingly, in the Old Testament, especially in the Song of Songs, the Spirit of God employs fragrance or savor to express the tender feeling of a man, for it can only be smelled with the nose. Smelling is a most delicate act. It represents man’s tender feeling. “Nose” in the Scriptures stands for feeling. Man’s feeling is most delicate, though it may or may not be useful.”
See, Sgs. 7.8, Gen. 8.21. These are truly sweet things that touch our emotion. Smell is so delicate just like our delicate emotion. Let us keep that which is delicate in a delicate state, and perhaps this is God’s message after all. It is should be spiritually preserved. Nose has several meanings, and this is one of them. Referring to Nee’s book, Song of Songs, you will see another aspect of the which is that of discernment.
5. Using Terms Precisely
Richard babbles, “Nee uses terms imprecisely. One example is his writing about a minister's receiving 'revelations' in his 'Holy Spirit memory' and those revelations being remembered in us by the Holy Spirit. This sort of metaphysical mumbo jumbo is impossible to understand, since there is no direct scriptural reference to a 'Holy Spirit memory.'"”
Nee uses terms extremely precisely. I don’t know anyone who is more precise in their words than Watchman Nee. Really. This is not metaphysical stuff but exactly how the Holy Spirit works in our spirit. And I understand all of it so well with a little effort maybe Richard could too. Richard says Nee is “impossible to understand”. I understood it. But I know my flesh can't understand it, nor will Richard's.
Nee writes, regarding Holy Spirit memory (citing a verse to prove it) on pages 196-197 (CFP) of The Ministry of God's Word,
"You have to support the spoken word with the inner word. Due to the inadequacy of memory, however, you often fail to have the supply ready. The longer you speak, the farther you drift away from the inward word. After you finish delivering the sermon you find your inner word remains untouched. You came with a burden, yet you return with the same burden. You have not been able to discharge it. This is a great suffering to you. Perhaps you say, 'I will write it down in my notebook; then I will remember.' This may or may not help, for an unusual thing happens: as you read your notes you recognize every word of them, but you cannot recall the thing behind the words. How totally inadequate is your memory. If what you have is mere doctrine or teaching you are well able to deliver it. The more doctrinal it is, the easier you remember. But it is not easy to recall revelation. In attempting to communicate your inward revelation you must come to realize that you cannot remember what you have just seen. The words you may remember, yet the thing itself is forgotten. Our problem on the platform is that we forget the thing we have seen. We may say many words, yet none communicates the thing we see. The ministry suffers loss. How necessary it is to have memory."
"The memory we need is of two kinds: the outward memory and the Holy Spirit memory. A minister of the word needs both. The outward memory points to the memory of the outward man, that which is produced in a man’s brain. It occupies a very important place in testifying the word of God. The Holy Spirit memory is what the Lord Jesus mentions in John 14.26: 'But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.'This is the Holy Spirit memory, for it is the Holy Spirit who brings things to your remembrance, not you yourself."
What Nee is speaking about is revelation and memory in that revelation, both on our side and the side of the Holy Spirit.
Is it so hard to accept that in our spirit resides the Holy Spirit whereby God enters the window of our conscience and communicates His mind to us. When this happens is this not where revelation takes place through the function of intuition in our inner man? And when that message works in us, it does so in a form of our “still small voice” (scriptural term - project for everyone - find the verse in Exodus "still small voice" using the NKJV). But, we can easily lose that communication within or become forgetful in our spirit (as matters of the world weigh on us), so what does the Holy Spirit do for us then? For one thing, the Holy Spirit has a memory for us of revelation we have received. As we go about our daily lives we can access what we have received in the Spirit of the Lord by this memory in our inner man. It is really quite elementary.
Conclusion
Richard’s final babble, “When a Christian begins to see Nee as a guide in determining the value of other Christian writers, or sees Nee's writings as a key to spirituality, that person is headed for trouble. Nee's presuppositions are suspect in light of the Word of God. His books provide grist for cult groups such as The Way (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/w17.html), The Alamo Foundation, the Children of God (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f07.html) and other groups (http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l40.html). The astute believer should watch out for Watchman Nee." There is no evidence of the connection claimed by Richard Fisher, nor does he even try to give any, through self-declaration. Watchman Nee is not responsible either, for the mistakes of men, their misreading, and their bearing false witness; therefore, such blaming ought to be passed back to where it came from.
I think Richard is making many claims without connection in his own ego and imagination, lacking a spirit of discernment. Watchman Nee was a powerful writer, one of the best. I put his writings in the top 1% of all Christian writers, easily. I have read over 100 different writers and this is the conclusion I have come in comparing. You must make your own decision. As noted above about Pat Knapp's experience in cults, they love to use the book, Spiritual Authority and misuse the truths therein. The reason for this is based on the unspiritual using attempting to use the spiritual (see the 5th bullet point) (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Watchman_Nee.htm). The same is true of the leaders of the above mentioned cults. But if anyone spends the time to really read Spiritual Authority, one begins to realize it is a powerful, even authoritative work on the subject of authority and submission.
Richard was not able to make a connection to his claims, because all Richard did was read from someone else (Dana Roberts) who also did a shoddy work of reading Watchman Nee (even marry him to others (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/SomeDifferences.htm)). Richard admitted having troubles understanding Watchman Nee. I believe that in essence is the problem, that Richard Fisher is without the Holy Spirit. Since man can not understand and can’t see the light, often his recourse is to blame. This has been a work of blaming and bearing false witness of another, and I hope I have done some justice here so that we keep a watch out for Richard Fisher's wiles. Last time I spoke with him, he said he would prepare a follow-up. It has been two years since then (2002), and nothing has been forthcoming. He is dishonest.
In conclusion it can be stated that since Watchman Nee has not been identified as stating something to be untrue, then we can conclude what is going on here is that of the false accuser on the attack for one or more reasons: spiritual jealousy, inability to understand, misreading, mistaken assumption, one-upmanship or trying to defend something in one's own flesh, an untruth. Let us not assume what Richard Fisher is holding onto in his heart, but whatever it is, we know it is of the flesh; either sin, natural (self) or a supernatural hold on him. Experimentally, what runs contrary to what one believes, one often attacks. Therefore, Richard attacks partial rapture, Biblical locality, OSAS Arminianism, triparite man, and authority and submission in all things.
If Watchman Nee had said something wrong, I would agree with Richard Fisher in a heart beat, but I have found Richard Fisher full of sin in bearing false witness. I pray this sets the record straight. I will do this for any person who has be been born false witness of. You can accuse me of thinking, "Nee's writings as the key to spirituality". I recognize the depth in Watchman Nee's writings which answer some of the deepest questions we can ask in just about the best way possible that I know of according to the Scriptures. I consider my defense of no account, since my guiding principle in life is the Word of God and the Holy Spirit. To date, I have found no writer as deep as Watchman Nee apart from the Word of God. I believe what is happening is people are not respecters of truth, but prefer their own truth, which I have outlined from beginning to end where such mistakes occur in reading Watchman Nee, which you can examine for yourself (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/Misreading.htm).
Praise the Lord for this discernment! Amen.
Watchman Nee was not part of The Local Church. The Local Church was a calvinist cult started by Witness Lee. Watchman Nee was of the Little Flock that rejected The Local Church. Those who try to marry Watchman Nee to Witness Lee make this mistake. Nee was osas arminian. Lee was a calvinist. Nee believed in Biblical locality. Lee had a central hub called the LSM corporation and its distribution outlets. Nee taught partial rapture. Lee changed who was raptured at the first rapture as shown here, http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/1st_rapture.htm. Nee believed in our being tripartite which disallows the leeism shouters in their emotion of the soul, which is not in the spirit.
The sites mentioned about Witness Lee that Lee is a cult, and so they make similar mistakes labelling Nee having Lee's false teachings, but Nee's writings don't convey the same teachings as Lee. This would be an error of Duddy and Sparks. That's why none can ever find anything wrong with Nee's writings by quoting him. They always need to use subterfuge.
The church's theology includes belief in a Triune God, that is, the unification of the Father, the Son and the Holy Sprirt in one being. How odd to find a problem with this belief. Do you believe that God is not Triune? Do you believe that the Father, Son and Spirit of the Godhead is not one being? What you therefore then teach is called tritheism or polytheism like the mormons. Let it go.
Why sin falsely accusing that I deny that Jesus was both God and man? I don't deny we are tripartite either, so why say I deny this? God's nature, His holiness is His alone, and when we receive His life, we receive eternal life which is divine life. Neither do I deny this fact, so why accuse that I do?
I know of no Biblical scholar who has correct teaching and yet is hostile to Nee's writings, for that would be a contradiction. Those hostile to Nee's writings are calvinists, historicalists, pretrib onlyists, posttrib onlyists, arminians, young earth creationists and others that reject gap restoration; even those in denominations that divide the body of Christ falsely not according to Biblical locality, and fallen bipartite men. Praise the Lord for this discernment!
All of Nee's thoughts come directly from the Bible and in agreement with other believers.
His own writing state he believes you have to go beyond the Bible for divine truth and revelation. That the Bible is only the beginning to a reality beyond it.
Nothing in Nee's writings state this so why sin bearing false witness? That's selfish is it not?
And who found and declared that reality? Nee!
What reality? The reality you created in your selfish accusation sinning bearing false witness?
Show me, in the Bible, this Holy Spirit Memory. Or that one has to be emotional for the Holy Spirit to flow and work. Or that there is revelation beyond the Bible we need to find and study.Understand what Nee is saying about our outward memory and the Holy Spirit memory (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/holyspiritmemory.htm). "Words alone cannot be considered as God’s word. There must be the reality behind them" (p. 209 pdf, CFP). "Let us understand that the coming forth of words alone is not enough; the spirit must also come out, and when it does it will do so together with feeling" (p. 221 pdf). In other words, people speak forth, but their hearts need to be touched also.
The Bible was the most important thing to Nee for it was the Word of God, and he dissected it better than anyone I know. Nee is correct that words alone by themselves are not the end all to be all of things. A fair statement! Nee was not incoherent, nor mystical nor philosophical. He was so incredibly precise that his words are such a joy. He had an incredibly deep working of the Holy Spirit in his life. When Watchman Nee used the term Holy Spirit memory, he cited verses to identify the meaning of what he was trying to get across. What he has said about the Holy Spirit memory makes sense both objectively and subjectively in experience. The reality behind words is more important than words for words sakes, certainly. There is a memory activity that we can forget of the Holy Spirit in our inner man that is important to maintain otherwise we are susceptible to falling back towards the flesh. Experientially I can not deny this in my life either. It seems like plain old common sense to me. I have a poor memory so I should know.
Richard babbles, “Nee uses terms imprecisely. One example is his writing about a minister's receiving 'revelations' in his 'Holy Spirit memory' and those revelations being remembered in us by the Holy Spirit. This sort of metaphysical mumbo jumbo is impossible to understand, since there is no direct scriptural reference to a 'Holy Spirit memory.'"”
Nee uses terms extremely precisely. I don’t know anyone who is more precise in their words than Watchman Nee. Really. This is not metaphysical stuff but exactly how the Holy Spirit works in our spirit. And I understand all of it so well with a little effort maybe Richard could too. Richard says Nee is “impossible to understand”. I understood it. But I know my flesh can't understand it, nor will Richard's.
Nee writes, regarding Holy Spirit memory (citing a verse to prove it) on pages 196-197 (CFP) of The Ministry of God's Word,
"You have to support the spoken word with the inner word. Due to the inadequacy of memory, however, you often fail to have the supply ready. The longer you speak, the farther you drift away from the inward word. After you finish delivering the sermon you find your inner word remains untouched. You came with a burden, yet you return with the same burden. You have not been able to discharge it. This is a great suffering to you. Perhaps you say, 'I will write it down in my notebook; then I will remember.' This may or may not help, for an unusual thing happens: as you read your notes you recognize every word of them, but you cannot recall the thing behind the words. How totally inadequate is your memory. If what you have is mere doctrine or teaching you are well able to deliver it. The more doctrinal it is, the easier you remember. But it is not easy to recall revelation. In attempting to communicate your inward revelation you must come to realize that you cannot remember what you have just seen. The words you may remember, yet the thing itself is forgotten. Our problem on the platform is that we forget the thing we have seen. We may say many words, yet none communicates the thing we see. The ministry suffers loss. How necessary it is to have memory."
"The memory we need is of two kinds: the outward memory and the Holy Spirit memory. A minister of the word needs both. The outward memory points to the memory of the outward man, that which is produced in a man’s brain. It occupies a very important place in testifying the word of God. The Holy Spirit memory is what the Lord Jesus mentions in John 14.26: 'But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.'This is the Holy Spirit memory, for it is the Holy Spirit who brings things to your remembrance, not you yourself."
What Nee is speaking about is revelation and memory in that revelation, both on our side and the side of the Holy Spirit.
Is it so hard to accept that in our spirit resides the Holy Spirit whereby God enters the window of our conscience and communicates His mind to us. When this happens is this not where revelation takes place through the function of intuition in our inner man? And when that message works in us, it does so in a form of our “still small voice” (scriptural term - project for everyone - find the verse in Exodus "still small voice" using the NKJV). But, we can easily lose that communication within or become forgetful in our spirit (as matters of the world weigh on us), so what does the Holy Spirit do for us then? For one thing, the Holy Spirit has a memory for us of revelation we have received. As we go about our daily lives we can access what we have received in the Spirit of the Lord by this memory in our inner man. It is really quite elementary.
CoreIssue
06-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Understand what Nee is saying about our outward memory and the Holy Spirit memory (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/holyspiritmemory.htm). "Words alone cannot be considered as God’s word. There must be the reality behind them" (p. 209 pdf, CFP). "Let us understand that the coming forth of words alone is not enough; the spirit must also come out, and when it does it will do so together with feeling" (p. 221 pdf). In other words, people speak forth, but their hearts need to be touched also.
No more on Richard. Stop trying to interject him in everything as if he speaks for us all.
It is obvious if we do anything but a few points at a time you are going to ramble off into preaching and periphrials.
Did Nee believe in original revelation, meaning coverning things and aspects, new and in addition to Bible?
If yes, then show me this reality in the Bible.
And where does the Bible state it must come out with feeling?
The example in your link has a guy rolling of the floor for hours. This is non-Biblical and most assuredly Pentecostal.
Once a certain brother was convicted of his sin. He was so overwhelmed by it that he rolled on the floor from eight in the evening until dawn. Others had long left the meeting hall, but he remained there rolling as though he had come to the gate of hades. “Even though I go to hell,” he cried out, “it still is less than I deserve!” During that night the Lord showed him the repugnancy of sin. He saw it in his spirit, and he was able to tell others of the hatefulness of sin. As is written in a hymn, he saw sin as black as smoke, and nothing is darker than smoke. With just those few words he was able to utter his inward revelation. Many were helped. Even so, after two or three years his revelation gradually grew dim. The words “sin black as smoke” were still with him, but when he rose to speak, the picture was no longer there. The revelation of the Holy Spirit had faded away; it was no longer as distinct and powerful as before. Formerly when he preached on the blackness of sin it was with tears in his eyes; now he spoke with a smile. The taste was different. The words were the same, but the Holy Spirit memory was absent.
Very Pentecostal and WoF. Or for that time period, Charismatic into the mystical and metaphysical.
Rolling on the floor and the other just walked away and left him alone.
Either this was a very uncaring congregation to leave him alone.
No one here denies God speaks to us and guides us. But the linkage to Memory is non-Biblical.
Nee uses terms extremely precisely.
Then where did Holy Spirit Memory come from? Sure not in the Bible in concept or wording.
Remember, you said he used words with precession. Where is memory used in the Bible in any context with the Holy Spirit speaking to us or guiding us?
Bible references of usage. Not quotes or attempts to explain around it.
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