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CoreIssue
02-19-2006, 06:11 PM
What exactly is the seeker-sensitive movement? In a nutshell, it's the push within churches across the country to make worship services more "relevant" and therefore more attractive to the world. It's the driving force behind the marketing ploys and high-tech entertainment gimmicks churches use to promote growth.
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To an extent that's what Paul did-I mean we don't have to be like the world-but he did mention becoming all things to all men. I'm not sure what this "seeker sensitive" stuff is all about-and I don't listen to Warren or Jakes or whomever, but I can see some of the thought behind it.
Chrystalwuzhere
08-20-2007, 07:48 PM
Seeker Sensitive is basically that they don't dare tell people they're sinning, or living in sin (be sensitive to the sinner and don't offend them). They just tell them that God loves them and that God wants great things for their lives despite the fact that Lord Jesus taught the exact opposite. He said we would be hated. He said we would have trials and tribulations...even be put to death.
How can you make someone fully understand salvation, and the sacrafice of Messiah, if you don't explain sin to them? People need to flee the wrath to come...they need to be told.
a.baker
08-21-2007, 07:49 AM
Yes repent repent repent. If people would read the bible for themselves they would see this. They would also see many other details that are so important to God. Yes people are too sensitive these days. Its sensitivity about everything. It seems with each generation these emotions become more intense and there seems to be more emotions on top of that. Its like they are willing to accept any sin as long as they try. We can't just try, we as Christians have to live Gods Word out in everything we do.
kay-gee
08-21-2007, 09:09 AM
Most folks today don't have the attention span to study the bible. Sad!
all the best...
CoreIssue
08-21-2007, 10:39 AM
Most folks today don't have the attention span to study the bible. Sad!
all the best...
Worse, the desire.
Even worse, they read it to support their thinking, not what it says.
a.baker
08-21-2007, 05:57 PM
They do and they only pick out and focus on what they want. Gods word is a whole. He is an all or nothing God. People also don't give Him credit enough; they want the praise for themselves.
Jessie
08-21-2007, 08:07 PM
we are to be in the world not of it and certainly the church is not to use worldly methods
John Beckett
08-21-2007, 10:26 PM
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Amen to most, if not all of you.
Just because one believes in Him, doesn't necessarily mean they're
"Saved". Even the devil himself believes in the Son of God. Is he Heaven-
bound??
Methinks not.
Jessie
08-21-2007, 11:58 PM
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Amen to most, if not all of you.
Just because one believes in Him, doesn't necessarily mean they're
"Saved". Even the devil himself believes in the Son of God. Is he Heaven-
bound??
Methinks not.
thats right.... sad but true.
kay-gee
08-22-2007, 09:27 AM
Curious! How do you folks suggest we treat seekers? Can any one give a step by step process by which you witness, from mild curiosity to commitment? I'm interested.
all the best...
a.baker
08-22-2007, 11:09 AM
John Beckett good point!
CoreIssue
08-22-2007, 11:31 AM
Curious! How do you folks suggest we treat seekers? Can any one give a step by step process by which you witness, from mild curiosity to commitment? I'm interested.
all the best...
Paul gave the process, by example.
He began, where the person was, talking about that. From there he discussed it, a verbal path, to Christ and the Gospel.
You first much connect with the person, on some level. Show some understanding of where they are.
Then question and suggest.
Feel your way through, using the openings found to show them their beliefs are wrong and what is right.
Just preaching the Bible at someone is instant failure.
Give them reason to question where they are, reason to be interested and then reason to believe.
That means you need to understand what they believe, what the Bible says and have proofs, historical, scientific and logical, why their beliefs are flawed and the Bible is true.
For some it is very simplistic. Others, very complicated.
a.baker
08-22-2007, 05:39 PM
Yes I agree it helps to know where they are coming from so you can help them find the false where they are with what they believe. I agree always listen first and think before you speak and God will do the rest and give you what you need to pursue. All the answers are in the bible but some people just skip parts or all together have someone else tell them about it only and they never look into the bible to see if it's false. Many also like to dance around the subject and never get to the point because they don't want to offend anyone.
kay-gee
08-23-2007, 09:00 AM
I don't discuss my faith with others, unless they ask or otherwise show some sort of interest. Some folks just aren't seeking. Does that make me seeker sensitive? I believe in just living the life to the best of my ability, before others, and Always being ready to offer an account of the faith that is in me. I'm not really very evangelical. I would never push or force my views on anyone. I essentially believe it is the responsability of every individual to seek God. What can be done with those "too dumb to come out of the rain" so to speak?! I realize I'm probably wrong in this attitude, but I don't know what to do about it. I consider myself an encourager of those already committed to the faith. I leave the envangelizing to the pro's....
all the best...
John Beckett
08-23-2007, 09:10 AM
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You're probably not going to like my response, but here goes ...
i personally believe that the Bible ... the Scriptures ... the RULES were
written for men much more than for women. And we men have been
"Commissioned" by the Lord to spread the Word to all parts of the
world. In fact, in Matthew 24, He actually Told us that --once the
Gospel has been preached throughout the entire world-- the end will
come. Meaning He shall Return.
Glory, Glory, Hallelujah!!
:yowza:
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a.baker
08-23-2007, 11:10 AM
Is that what the Jehovah witnesses do when they go door to door? Yes I agree the bible is directed more towards man than woman. But I believe that women can talk about God to a nonbeliever as much as a man. But when it comes to teaching that is mans responsibility not womans. But its everyones responsibility to spread the word.
CoreIssue
08-23-2007, 11:37 AM
I don't discuss my faith with others, unless they ask or otherwise show some sort of interest. Some folks just aren't seeking. Does that make me seeker sensitive? I believe in just living the life to the best of my ability, before others, and Always being ready to offer an account of the faith that is in me. I'm not really very evangelical. I would never push or force my views on anyone. I essentially believe it is the responsability of every individual to seek God. What can be done with those "too dumb to come out of the rain" so to speak?! I realize I'm probably wrong in this attitude, but I don't know what to do about it. I consider myself an encourager of those already committed to the faith. I leave the envangelizing to the pro's....
all the best...
I agree we don't go around pushing it.
But really, life presents tons of opportunities to test the waters with others.
And I understand not being comfortable with witnessing.
But leaving it to the pros, if you mean preachers and career types isn't Biblical. Most people find God via co-workers and such.
CoreIssue
08-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Is that what the Jehovah witnesses do when they go door to door? Yes I agree the bible is directed more towards man than woman. But I believe that women can talk about God to a nonbeliever as much as a man. But when it comes to teaching that is mans responsibility not womans. But its everyones responsibility to spread the word.
And Mormons.
Any Christian can be a witness.
Leadership in a church, and similar, is reserved for men.
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