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CoreIssue
02-19-2006, 11:53 AM
After one is saved what comes next is sanctification. The process of becoming more Christ like and set apart for God.

There should be a hunger for learning to what God wants of you in life. What you need to do to become a better Christian.

There should be study of the Bible based on proper grammar, literal reading and correct word definition. One should seek the truth in what they read using all their skills and relying on the Holy Spirit to guide them to true understanding.

Man Christians fail here. They seek the easy way out by picking up a denominational handbook on doctrines and beliefs. They say I like what this person or group over here says and I will get their faster by studying their materials.

That can cause great error. God tells us in the Bible we are responsible to study the word and make sure what we hear from others is true and in conformity with the Bible.

Warning bells should go off when you here groups that say you do not read the Bible as you do other printed materials. That there are special rules and such for gaining understanding.

The Bible was written in the human language of the day. It is to be read in the same way.

As said in the Bible, it is not a book of private revelation and meaning. That means one can read it and understand it as written as long as they stay true to work meaning, grammar and context.

Don't let anyone ever tell you that you cannot get very deep meaning and understanding from the Bible reading this way. You can under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

DaimyoMateo
09-21-2006, 11:52 AM
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The afterlife will either be eternity in Heaven or eternity in Hell (maybe Purgatory too) from what I have been told. I also been told God can do anything but lie. Keeping this in mind the idea of forever is a very long time so long that it will never stop. If someone is condemned to hell or sent to heaven they can not stop being there since it is forever. Even if God wills it to change things regarding Heaven and Hell he will not be able to. Not only can't God lie but he can not stop Heaven or Hell even if he wanted simply because souls have been sent for eternity to either place. Is God really limited to what he can do? It is a paradox and I can't see how a God could make this afterlife setup that is like a trap that effects God's creation ability.

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CoreIssue
09-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Hello



The afterlife will either be eternity in Heaven or eternity in Hell (maybe Purgatory too) from what I have been told.
One note. There is no such thing as Purgatory.
I also been told God can do anything but lie. Keeping this in mind the idea of forever is a very long time so long that it will never stop. If someone is condemned to hell or sent to heaven they can not stop being there since it is forever. Even if God wills it to change things regarding Heaven and Hell he will not be able to. Not only can't God lie but he can not stop Heaven or Hell even if he wanted simply because souls have been sent for eternity to either place. Is God really limited to what he can do? It is a paradox and I can't see how a God could make this afterlife setup that is like a trap that effects God's creation ability.


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God doesn't change.

What he sets up he intends to be eternal. So no real issue of it being any kind of trap or paradox.

My thoughts, anyway! :D

DaimyoMateo
09-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Yeah I like what you say and seems to make alittle more sense now.

So really the only offense is to not acknowledge God and that can never be forgiven?
Someone could spend the majority of thier lives doing harmful things and still be forgiven and spend eternity in Heaven while someone else could spend their lives helping others and be cast into Hell forever. Could any of this be from the imagination of man in the early stages of civilization?

CoreIssue
09-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Yeah I like what you say and seems to make alittle more sense now.

So really the only offense is to not acknowledge God and that can never be forgiven?
Someone could spend the majority of thier lives doing harmful things and still be forgiven and spend eternity in Heaven while someone else could spend their lives helping others and be cast into Hell forever. Could any of this be from the imagination of man in the early stages of civilization?
More to it than that.

God is the source of all that is good. All humans are born with a spiritual nature to do evil.

One who is born-again is purged of the spiritual sin nature. But the flesh nature is still sinful.

So, to not acknowledge God is to not want to do what is good and right. Those who that do not want God are eternally sinful and could never exist with the saints and God in eternity. Totally incompatible.

As for someone spending their whole lives doing good, that just does not happen.

What Man considers 'good' is tainted, no matter how they try. It is done for selfish reasons, never for pure reasons.

God, what is good, evil and so on did not originate in the minds of Man. God was the origin of it all. The fall of Satan and Adam brought sin into practice.

Good cannot exist without freewill. Where there is freewill there will always be those who choose not to do good. But it has consequences.