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Chrystalwuzhere
02-09-2006, 11:36 AM
What do you think? Demonic sign? Self-inflicted?






The stigmata phenomenon manifests itself within the stigmatized person with the opening, in her / his body, of wounds (stigma) reminiscent of the five wounds of Christ, plus the crown of thorns. The wounds do not suppurate and the blood is pure. The stigmatization is accompanied with intense physical and moral suffering. It happens generally during the day, in remembrance of the Passion of Christ.

http://www.soufanieh.com/eestigma.htm

TLIR
02-09-2006, 05:59 PM
What do you think? Demonic sign? Self-inflicted?

I have wondered the same thing.
I just can't seem to accept it as from God.
Signs as I see them are to confirm the word preached.
I wonder what this person is preaching if anything?
Down in the pit of my stomach, there is something just not right about it.:scratch:

Chrystalwuzhere
02-09-2006, 06:33 PM
I just can't seem to accept it as from God.
:scratch:

It's not of God... the RCC is steeped in paganism, and mystic manifestations like this.

Most stigmatas are found to be self-inflicted, but ones like this woman's are more questionable. I know that the source of them is demonic, but is this one? Or could it be self-inflicted? There is a video on the website, and if you have time, check it out (if you haven't already).

TLIR
02-09-2006, 07:34 PM
It is demonic.
It looks real enough.
Everything that is supernatural is not necessarily from God.
Paul said he bore in his body the marks of Jesus Christ.
(Gal 6:17 NIV) Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.
I have always thought and still do that this is in reference to the beatings and stonings he endured.
Some might interpret this to mean the stigmata.
How ever even if the reference Paul makes is in reference to the stigmata. he had Gospel enough to warrant the sign.
this woman does not. She has no message! She is confused about it. There is no wisdom or revelation to accompany the sign.

My .02

Chrystalwuzhere
02-09-2006, 08:19 PM
(Gal 6:17 NIV) Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.

I have always thought and still do that this is in reference to the beatings and stonings he endured.


Then you and I would be in agreement, brother. :nod: That is what I always attributed this remark to mean.

eahaddix
02-12-2006, 10:30 AM
:lock: Hmmm . . .

Notice that some wounds occur on her hands' palms, as opposed to her wrist. Nails through the hands' palms cannot support body weight (ref. (http://www.frugalsites.net/jesus/crucifixion.htm)). Moreover, the cut on her left side is unfalsifiable, since Scripture does not document which side was pierced (John 19:34 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2019:34;&version=31;)).

As a result, one observes that the source duplicates classical iconography, not accurate historical data. Hence, the source is a misleading source, which emphasizes convincing people more than accuracy.