Bible prophecy

[CTZonEdit]

How do you view the bible?

[TLIR]

Through the eyes of faith.
It reflects the condition of my heart.
Sometimes what I see is beautiful and sometimes I see things that are ugly and need attention.
I'm glad the Father see's me through the blood.

[Chrystalwuzhere]

Relevant, and life giving. Prophecy shows us a glimpse of what God says WILL BE, and the reasons WHY it will be that way. It is important for me to know the WHY's of scripture. When reading prophecy in Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, etc., I don't always understand everything I read, but then I start paying attention for the reasons why these things will come about, and it helps me grow by leaps and bounds because it gives me a solid foundation of what my Heavenly Father thinks, feels, and cares about.

Instead of just reading that a nation is being judged, I pay attention to the reason WHY it is being judged... it's very enlightening.

Back to the main point... it's not only relevant, it's holy, infallible, and TRUE.

[CoreIssue]

If the Bible is irrelevant then so is God and Christ.:freak:

[TLIR]

If the Bible is irrelevant then so is God and Christ.:freak:

Core,
You look kinda bugged out bubba!:yowza:

[CoreIssue]

Just a shocking thought

[Brandli5]

The bible's words are coming true as we speak. There's nothing false about it.

If the bible is not truth to someone, they need to learn to read, man who could ever think its not truth? :pray: Pray that they see the light.

[lighthousebeacon]

Brandi-u r so right-on, the DaVinci code has gotten out of hand!-it gives the non-believer even more reason to pick on christians & I don't need that at my workplace(which 70% dont go to church):(

[kay-gee]

Through the eyes of faith.
It reflects the condition of my heart.
Sometimes what I see is beautiful and sometimes I see things that are ugly and need attention.
I'm glad the Father see's me through the blood.
the bible is a great mirror in which we are able to see are very souls. Have you ever noticed that there is at least one biblical character who is YOU to a "T". Study it daily to see how GOD can shape you into what HE wants you to be.

[CoreIssue]

Through the eyes of faith.
It reflects the condition of my heart.
Sometimes what I see is beautiful and sometimes I see things that are ugly and need attention.
I'm glad the Father see's me through the blood.
the bible is a great mirror in which we are able to see are very souls. Have you ever noticed that there is at least one biblical character who is YOU to a "T". Study it daily to see how GOD can shape you into what HE wants you to be.
My sig line agrees with that statement! :D

[DaimyoMateo]

Bible is a bunch of books with some interesting characters and some not so interesting. Alot of other books are worse but some are better read.

[Street Sweeper]

Great topic. I'd love to contribute .... eventually!:(

[DaimyoMateo]

how do you vote? I don't remember any vote on this.

[CoreIssue]

how do you vote? I don't remember any vote on this.
If you see the vote screen, you have not voted.

If you see the results, you have.

[a.baker]

This is how I veiw the bible. Revelation 22:7 "Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."
Its truth and nothing but. All we ever need to know or worry about is in this book! The upright hold the bible close to their hearts and nothing else. We live accordingly to His word in the bible and not mans. We take to heart everything that is in the bible with our minds, hearts, mouths, ears, hands, and soul. Its not just for reading; we simply live it.

[InTheWind]

And nothing shall be added or removed from the book, funny how many are doing that nowdays.:swoon:

[a.baker]

Yes people are! It says that if they do they will endure in plagues and such.

[soweroftruth]

the bible ?wow! this collection of script that i believe . i dont have enough time to spell out (or the typing knowhow ) to finish saying what it means to me. in short it tells me all that my GOD YHWH "has a plan and i am a part of it ,and that my birth is the part of a plan "already in motion" ,to bring the world to the saving blood of YESHUA (jesus) it is not a book to control us or scare us to either do what the church (fallen) teaches or else .,but that we can know that we arn't good enough to EARN it only recieve it thank you Jesus.

[kay-gee]

One faulty thing in your statement. In Matthew 16:18, the Lord says He will build a church that even Hell itself can not prevail against, and yet you claim it has "fallen". If He was wrong on a single statement, then His whole mission has to be held suspect doesn't it. Think about it.
all the best...

[CoreIssue]

One faulty thing in your statement. In Matthew 16:18, the Lord says He will build a church that even Hell itself can not prevail against, and yet you claim it has "fallen". If He was wrong on a single statement, then His whole mission has to be held suspect doesn't it. Think about it.
all the best...
No. You need to think about it. You are spinning it to mean on this earth.

The Church is Eternal, as is Israel. Neither will fall in that frame of reference.

But, on this earth it states the Church will fall into Apostacy and be of little strength before the Trib.


Revelation 3
I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.

And the majority will be not of Christ in truth, only in name.
15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
And that at the time of these two Church facts, there will be a apostacy.

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I find it fascinating, KG, that you espouse personal opinion over literal reading and study. Then fight so hard to try to disprove, discourage and reject postings by those who have done the study.

Personal opinion and feelings over literal facts. Hmmmm.

[kay-gee]

Oh don't worry I've studied Matt 16:18. How will the church even make it to the beginning of eternity if it falls apart and out of existence in this world?

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

Oh don't worry I've studied Matt 16:18. How will the church even make it to the beginning of eternity if it falls apart and out of existence in this world?

all the best...
Where does it say the Church has to be added to until Eternity begins? Your adding to the words said.

There is no earthly Church during the Trib or MK.

It says Hell will not prevail against it and it does not. Nothing said about how long the Church will be added to.

The Church never looses a member added to it, so it will last for Eternity, but the numbers will not be continually added to.

Bible says a lot more on the subject than one verse.

[soweroftruth]

One faulty thing in your statement. In Matthew 16:18, the Lord says He will build a church that even Hell itself can not prevail against, and yet you claim it has "fallen". If He was wrong on a single statement, then His whole mission has to be held suspect doesn't it. Think about it.
all the best...
thank you for the reply, i claim only what ive observed in the body of believers in the usa according to the words of the holy spirit in 2 thes around the third verse "ther comes agreat falling away first ", this falling in its truth is "the dirverson of truth", inthe greek tex look at the history of the body of believers the church was strong in the ifluence the the way things went according to law in the usa god was in all forms of goverment and seculer and homes,over time because of the youkes the sunday school teachers,pastorals and others have preached to people seeking god . new believers as well as old live in condemnation because they cant posably live according to the law ,is smoking a sin? if it is then we are under law not grace .is drinking a sin ? if it is the we are under law and not grace,these are only 2 things out of thousands ive heard preached overthe years and they who do " probably arent saved" this is the gosple that saves the death burial and reserection of christ jesus. now by combining the law with grace unbelievers who see us act in a "unholy way according to the rules we place on believers" it has weaken the power of the church and sin"(which is only the disbelief in the christ") has abound and all other regulions are influencing man this goes for darwinism,ufos,aithism.... and with these false religuions domanationing the lawlessone can induce people to believe his lie, its heart breaking but it is happening. " they " meaning us "will have aform of godlyness but lack the power ther of".

[DON]

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[Nik]

Wow. Everyone is so united here. Feels like home.:):

[CoreIssue]

Wow. Everyone is so united here. Feels like home.:):
Then welcome home! :tiphat:

[kay-gee]

Not always all that united. But yeah, your point is duly noted. The funamentalists seem to have a real hard time understanding the "Progressive Conservatives".

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

Not always all that united. But yeah, your point is duly noted. The funamentalists seem to have a real hard time understanding the "Progressive Conservatives".

all the best...
Well, we are not fundamentalists to start with, by secular usage. We are Biblical literalists and not entrenched in denominational doctrines as are fundamentalists.

And progressive conservative is an oxymoron by secular meaning as well. Progressives are not conservative.

Like an old debate I had where one's group label was Humanistic Christian. Posting the definitions of those words killed THAT debate! :tiphat:

[kay-gee]

So being conservative then, means you must remain regressive and unable to strive ahead for creative solutions to age old problems? sad

all the best...

[CoreIssue]

So being conservative then, means you must remain regressive and unable to strive ahead for creative solutions to age old problems? sad

all the best...
That is a load, KG. Liberal propaganda.

When 'progress' abandons morality for situational ethics that is not progress. It is collapse.

Ethanol, in example, is a fool's game. It causes more damage than it does good. But when conservatives point that out it is not being 'progressive.'

Universal health care is 'progressive.' But EVERYWHERE that has been moved to they are having to retreat. It doesn't work for a number of reasons.

Liberals instituted the laws that say stupid things like taking meds that have negative reactions to, say, 3% of the users allows them to sue for millions. That hurts millions of others by driving med costs to a level they cannot get their meds. Conservatives say be advised of the risk and if you fall into the 3% you assumed the risk.

Try to help the 3%? Absolutely!! But don't take away access to medical for millions of others.

Drug addiction is a disease which employers and society must pay for treatment. Garbage. Another issue of personal responsibility.

The list goes on.

Now, where do the true solutions lie? Government can buy meds in massive bulk and provide them to society at hugely reduced costs. Currently illegal under liberal government. Why? Liberal politicians get millions for lawyer lobbies.

How about inertia engines? Why are the liberals not pushing an known and successful engine? Or magnet driven engines? Why not there? Low profit margin thus low tax collections etc.

Who are the richest people in the world? Liberal? Check it out. Microsoft and tons like that are owned by liberals.

What makes you think convervatives are all under one definition? They are not. I am a Moral Conservative, not an economic conservative. Bush is a Fiscal Conservative, which often dumps the moral part.

Who has gotten the US into more undeclared wars? Liberals. Once in who got more people killed than should have been? Liberals.

McCain is not a conservative. Nor was Bush in my book.

My point is you have bitten into the whole Conservative/Liberal definitions and biases as thrown out their by politicians.

There are not just two groups in the world. Far from it.