Refuting Jehovah's Witnesses

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Refuting Jehovah's Witnesses (http://www.jude3.net/JWIDX.HTM)
I invite you to read the following articles if you want to know how to answer the challenges of Jehovah's Witnesses.

[TLIR]

There is no link to information here.

[CoreIssue]

Now there is.:D

[CoreIssue]

A simple handout showing Christ is God.



Isaiah 44
6 "This is what the LORD says—
Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
apart from me there is no God.




Revelation 1
17When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Isaiah says God is the First and the Last. There is no other God

Christ says he is the First and the Last.

Since there is no other God then he must be God.

[Sid]

I have gone around with JWs many times and I find this is one way to get them off their prepared presentation [once you get them off it, they get lost quick, fast and in a hurry] :



Pull out your trusty KJV, go to these verses:


Matthew 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Matthew 2:8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.


You then point out that the New World Translation (NWT) uses obeisance [a salute] whenever the KJV uses worship when referring to Jesus Christ [they reject His Divinity].

. . . at this point you can move to question the validity of the NWT translation or the JW theology of Jesus Christ. . . . a twofer.


If they come back, they will bring one of their specialists along.



For more background on this:

The New World Translation and "Proskuneo" (worship) (http://www.carm.org/jw/nwt_proskuneo.htm)

[Sid]

One of the reasons I came to question RCism is from the bad theology of the WTS (JWs)


I grew to see that Jehovah's Witnesses and Roman Catholics share much common ground:


Both claim to be the One True Church.
Both have an Supreme Leader on Earth
Both base their salvation on a complicated system of works and deny salvation by faith alone.
Both believe that the Bible cannot be understood without their interpretation.
Both have their own approved Bible translations that suit their theology
Both believe in continuing revelation
. . . at least RCism accepts the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

But then again, when is the last time a a Roman Catholic knocked on your door?

[wvpeach1963]

Good points sid. Its would be a interesting discussion to talk about those beliefs with you.

quickly let me just say that many church's on earth believe they are the one true church.

The Jehovahs' Wittness's don't have a supreme leader on earth.
Since I know you won't believe me , find out who that is supposed to be and provide a link please.

I happen to know that neither faith believe works will get you to heaven , both faiths share the belief that christ died for the sins of mankind.

granted the catholics seem to believe priests can some how interpret the bible better than the populace. But JW's don't even seperate the children from thier services and each member is reguried to learn the bible for themselves , so your way off base there.
In fact they take very seriously the scripture that each man should study to show themselves approved.

Do you use the KJV of the bible sid? Your reading a catholic translation of the bible then.
We just dropped macabees fronm the KJV otherwise the bibles are the same. As a matter of fact they have more right to the King James Version than we do they made it.

If you'd like a link proving the catholics translated the King James Bible I can supply you with many.

if you'd like I can supply you with a link proving you are wrong about the JW translation of the bible. Would you like that ? Or once you make your mind up are you too stiff necked to admit your wrong? Even when telling lies about your fellow brothers and sisters in christ like your doing now.

Sid I assure you catholics and Jehovahs wittness are christian denominations like any other , both with thier own slant on the same scriptures.

But never fear when you meet them after being judged by God they will forgive you for your persecution of them. Because by then God will establish how he wants his true worship to be and then there will be no division only praise for our mighty and loving God.
No denomination of men has it all right, thats the point. If we could get it all right we wouldn't need God and we assuredly do need God.

Then there will be no catholics, no Jehovah's Wittness's , no methodists , no church of christs, no lutherans,no baptists, no muslims; we will all be Gods children and the church will be under the authority of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.

No division will exsist under the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ

One of the reasons I came to question RCism is from the bad theology of the WTS (JWs)


I grew to see that Jehovah's Witnesses and Roman Catholics share much common ground:

Both claim to be the One True Church.
Both have an Supreme Leader on Earth
Both base their salvation on a complicated system of works and deny salvation by faith alone.
Both believe that the Bible cannot be understood without their interpretation.
Both have their own approved Bible translations that suit their theology
Both believe in continuing revelation. . . at least RCism accepts the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

But then again, when is the last time a a Roman Catholic knocked on your door?

[CoreIssue]

Peach, I strongly suggest you do not disregard the verses and links I posted again.

You are dodging and looking to your conversation with Sid as a means to circumvent them.

Sid will be most patient to allow you to answer me first. Especially since he knows you are using him as an excuse to post more JW materials and preach.

A blind man can see what you are up to here.

Answer my links and verses.

[InTheWind]

Peach, after the rapture the world will most likely be told that we were removed so that we won`t interfere with the great love and teachings of the religions on earth.
We being us the ones that don`t believe in cults.
Do you believe that