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Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 02:58 PM
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:32 pm by CoreIssue.

Note: The first 12 posts on this thread were copied from the old board by Chrystalwuzhere.

Who are they?

I believe they are Enoch and Elijah.

That is because these are the only two men ever taken to Heaven in the flesh. The only two who have not died when it is said all will die, of course excluding the Raptured in the future.

But they will die in the Trib fulfilling the statement.

Some say Moses but that leaves one of the two mentioned alive in the flesh unraptured. Thus violating the Bible.

Others have other candidates but all run into Biblical problems such as what is already mentioned.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 02:58 PM
I have thought these same things for the same reasons.

will those raptured have to go thru death one day?

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 02:59 PM
No. Raptured then glorified. Done.

But I am not sure Rapture could not be defined as death since the body is completely changed into something new.

The earthly flesh is gone.

Just thought here. Nothing conclusive.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:00 PM
i get chills when I read that people will exchange presents at thier death.

Revelation 11


3And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth." 4These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. 5If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6These men have power to shut up the sky so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.
7Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. 9For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
11But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on. :D

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:01 PM
The Two Witnesses have power to use against Man and the earth.

Obviously they see the Two as the source for all the tribulation of the seals and think it is over. And give thanks to the AC and FP for killing them.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:02 PM
The Two Witnesses have power to use against Man and the earth.

Obviously they see the Two as the source for all the tribulation of the seals and think it is over. And give thanks to the AC and FP for killing them.

Its a morbid symbol of human proudness. I wonder if some shall give the N.T has presents to thier "religious fellows."

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:03 PM
May I ask a question, doesn't the bible say that the two witness had not seen death, and in that case it couldn't be Moses could it...????

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:04 PM
May I ask a question, doesn't the bible say that the two witness had not seen death, and in that case it couldn't be Moses could it...????

No. It cannot be Moses.

Only two in the Bible have been taken to Heaven not seeing death. Those are Enoch and Elijah.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:05 PM
Who are they?

I believe they are Enoch and Elijah.


Me too, Core. :nod:

And for all the reasons you mentioned above.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:06 PM
I believe they are Elijah and Moses.

mwahahahaha :hug:

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:06 PM
I believe they are Elijah and Moses.

mwahahahaha :hug:

:p Why Moses?

He is dead.

And what do you do with Enoch? He is not dead.

Chrystalwuzhere
02-04-2006, 03:08 PM
The issue of the Two Witnesses have been brought up in a couple of recent posts. So, good time to bump this one.