CoreIssue
02-03-2006, 03:24 PM
Note: The first 4 posts here are reposts from the old board by CoreIssue.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:00 am by CoreIssue
I received the following via the Contact Us email.
I am posting it here because upon sending and inivitation to join and discuss this the email was rejected because a fake email address was given.
The aFromMail form submitted:
Name from.....: Ali
Description...: Hello;
Im muslim and I wanna tell You that we \"muslims and christians\" have misunderstanding between us, we believe in christinity but not this one!!!we believe in genuine christinity Prophet Jesus had from God, the God who created all the universe,He is the same God who gave Mosis , David ,Ibraham,the eternal message that guided humans to the right way at
their times, we believed in Islam as a continuation for all the previous true religions ,because all the previous holly books were changed and deviated from truth,then You may ask me \"why Quraan is not deviated from the right as all other previous holy books?\"the answer that God told us in the Quraan is that Islam is the last religion on earth, no more
prophets and God will preserve and protect his last book to humans from any attempt of changing or manipulating it(Quraan)!!and if I were found to live at the time of prophet Jesus then I had to be proudly christian!because christinity at that time was the right religion exactly the same as that time when JUdism was right before christinity came, so its a process of continuation!
now I give some verses from the holy Quraan hoping that You start a journey in search for the truth on earth without bias,because bias never lead to the truth!
88.And they say: \"The Most Beneficent (Allah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children) (as the Jews say: Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son (Iesa (Christ) ), and the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)).\"
89.Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
90.Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins,
91.That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Beneficent (Allah).
92.But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
93.There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave.
94.Verily, He knows each one of them, and has counted them a full counting.
95.And everyone of them will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection (without any helper, or protector or defender).
96.Verily, those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger (Muhammad SAW)) and work deeds of righteousness, the Most Beneficent (Allah) will bestow love for them (in the hearts of the believers).
97.So We have made this (the Quran) easy in your own tongue (O Muhammad SAW), only that you may give glad tidings to the Muttaqoon (pious and righteous persons - See V.2:2), and warn with it the Ludda (most quarrelsome) people.
98.And how many a generation before them have We destroyed! Can you (O
Muhammad SAW) find a single one of them or hear even a whisper of them?
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REMOTE IP : 213.139.45.212
DATE/TIME : 2005-08-15 02:55:10
Notice the same mistake being made here as many Christians do with the Bible. Meaning just quoting verses at others is suppose to prove something. No proof or reasons are required to justify why one should take the Quraan seriously as from God.
This also shows a complete lack of knowledge or understanding about either the Old or New Testaments. The assumption the Quraan just continues them totally ignores the contradictions between the Bible and the Quraan. Even to the point of God totally being changed in nature, composition and so on.
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:00 am by CoreIssue
I received the following via the Contact Us email.
I am posting it here because upon sending and inivitation to join and discuss this the email was rejected because a fake email address was given.
The aFromMail form submitted:
Name from.....: Ali
Description...: Hello;
Im muslim and I wanna tell You that we \"muslims and christians\" have misunderstanding between us, we believe in christinity but not this one!!!we believe in genuine christinity Prophet Jesus had from God, the God who created all the universe,He is the same God who gave Mosis , David ,Ibraham,the eternal message that guided humans to the right way at
their times, we believed in Islam as a continuation for all the previous true religions ,because all the previous holly books were changed and deviated from truth,then You may ask me \"why Quraan is not deviated from the right as all other previous holy books?\"the answer that God told us in the Quraan is that Islam is the last religion on earth, no more
prophets and God will preserve and protect his last book to humans from any attempt of changing or manipulating it(Quraan)!!and if I were found to live at the time of prophet Jesus then I had to be proudly christian!because christinity at that time was the right religion exactly the same as that time when JUdism was right before christinity came, so its a process of continuation!
now I give some verses from the holy Quraan hoping that You start a journey in search for the truth on earth without bias,because bias never lead to the truth!
88.And they say: \"The Most Beneficent (Allah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children) (as the Jews say: Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son (Iesa (Christ) ), and the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels, etc.)).\"
89.Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.
90.Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins,
91.That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Beneficent (Allah).
92.But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Beneficent (Allah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).
93.There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave.
94.Verily, He knows each one of them, and has counted them a full counting.
95.And everyone of them will come to Him alone on the Day of Resurrection (without any helper, or protector or defender).
96.Verily, those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah and in His Messenger (Muhammad SAW)) and work deeds of righteousness, the Most Beneficent (Allah) will bestow love for them (in the hearts of the believers).
97.So We have made this (the Quran) easy in your own tongue (O Muhammad SAW), only that you may give glad tidings to the Muttaqoon (pious and righteous persons - See V.2:2), and warn with it the Ludda (most quarrelsome) people.
98.And how many a generation before them have We destroyed! Can you (O
Muhammad SAW) find a single one of them or hear even a whisper of them?
Send..........: 1
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REMOTE IP : 213.139.45.212
DATE/TIME : 2005-08-15 02:55:10
Notice the same mistake being made here as many Christians do with the Bible. Meaning just quoting verses at others is suppose to prove something. No proof or reasons are required to justify why one should take the Quraan seriously as from God.
This also shows a complete lack of knowledge or understanding about either the Old or New Testaments. The assumption the Quraan just continues them totally ignores the contradictions between the Bible and the Quraan. Even to the point of God totally being changed in nature, composition and so on.