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02-03-2006, 09:57 AM
Quote:More Than Conquerors
28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[10]
To love God one must have freewill. Love cannot be predestined as Calvinism demands whether adherents wish to admit it or not.
Quote:who[11] have been called according to his purpose.
God tells us his purposes are that all would be saved. But God recognizes that not all whom he would save will choose to be saved.
So all are called to love God but not all will love God. So not all are called to salvation.
Quote:29For those God foreknew
God foreknew who would love him in freewill. He did not predestine them to love him which by definition disallows love, freewill and foreknowledge as being possible.
Quote:he also predestined
But in foreknowing who would love him in freewill God also knew they could never find him in freewill due to their sin natures. And some would fail to find him even if they could find him in freewill.
So he predestined them to have the opportunity to find him in freewill that he knew in love they would act upon. He predestined their success without violating their freewill.
Quote:to be conformed to the likeness of his Son,
Once predestined they would conform to Christ. This means they would repent in faith by grace and be washed in the blood of Christ.
Quote:that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
In being washed in his blood they would become brothers of Christ. Christ being the eldest brother.
Quote:30And those he predestined, he also called;
God gave them the path to him. He opened the doors and invited them in.
Quote:those he called, he also justified;
They answered the invitation and by repentance were declared right with God because of Christ.
Quote:those he justified, he also glorified.
Those who are right with God will be resurrected and/or Raptured to Christ and given bodies as pure and clean as their sin free spirits.
Quote:31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?
With God making such solid promises to us how can we fail? Who, even ourselves, could cause us to ever fail?
Quote:32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
God paid a price beyond belief to buy us. He would never allow such a purchase to be lost to him.
Quote:33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen?
With such a price paid how could any sin or failure ever be found to be brought against us?
Quote:It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns?
God declares one just. God declares one condemned. Why would God ever declare what he says is just condemned?
Quote:Christ Jesus, who died – more than that, who was raised to life – is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.
Christ paid the price. He is also God. He tells the Father we are his by his price.
Would the Father ever take from the Son what he sent him to pay such a price to gain?
Quote:35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."[12] 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
Christ paid a price that has made all these threats and issues shadows to reality.
He has conquered all and through him we share in that conquest. We are the spoils of war Christ has won for God. We are sons of God who share in the victory.
Quote:38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[13] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
This denies Arminianism who would put the individual saint in here as an exception that could remove one from God.
But it says nothing but nothing in all of creation can do so. That includes the individual saint.
This is a solid Eternal Security statement.
28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[10]
To love God one must have freewill. Love cannot be predestined as Calvinism demands whether adherents wish to admit it or not.
Quote:who[11] have been called according to his purpose.
God tells us his purposes are that all would be saved. But God recognizes that not all whom he would save will choose to be saved.
So all are called to love God but not all will love God. So not all are called to salvation.
Quote:29For those God foreknew
God foreknew who would love him in freewill. He did not predestine them to love him which by definition disallows love, freewill and foreknowledge as being possible.
Quote:he also predestined
But in foreknowing who would love him in freewill God also knew they could never find him in freewill due to their sin natures. And some would fail to find him even if they could find him in freewill.
So he predestined them to have the opportunity to find him in freewill that he knew in love they would act upon. He predestined their success without violating their freewill.
Quote:to be conformed to the likeness of his Son,
Once predestined they would conform to Christ. This means they would repent in faith by grace and be washed in the blood of Christ.
Quote:that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
In being washed in his blood they would become brothers of Christ. Christ being the eldest brother.
Quote:30And those he predestined, he also called;
God gave them the path to him. He opened the doors and invited them in.
Quote:those he called, he also justified;
They answered the invitation and by repentance were declared right with God because of Christ.
Quote:those he justified, he also glorified.
Those who are right with God will be resurrected and/or Raptured to Christ and given bodies as pure and clean as their sin free spirits.
Quote:31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?
With God making such solid promises to us how can we fail? Who, even ourselves, could cause us to ever fail?
Quote:32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all--how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
God paid a price beyond belief to buy us. He would never allow such a purchase to be lost to him.
Quote:33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen?
With such a price paid how could any sin or failure ever be found to be brought against us?
Quote:It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns?
God declares one just. God declares one condemned. Why would God ever declare what he says is just condemned?
Quote:Christ Jesus, who died – more than that, who was raised to life – is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.
Christ paid the price. He is also God. He tells the Father we are his by his price.
Would the Father ever take from the Son what he sent him to pay such a price to gain?
Quote:35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written:
"For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered."[12] 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
Christ paid a price that has made all these threats and issues shadows to reality.
He has conquered all and through him we share in that conquest. We are the spoils of war Christ has won for God. We are sons of God who share in the victory.
Quote:38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[13] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
This denies Arminianism who would put the individual saint in here as an exception that could remove one from God.
But it says nothing but nothing in all of creation can do so. That includes the individual saint.
This is a solid Eternal Security statement.